Kevin Carr's Gloves 509 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, The Fish said: Well that's hyperbole. He's not worse than Guivarch, Luque, Slimani and so on. Honestly, a better manager wouldn't have persisted with him isolated up front, they'd play a team that doesn't meekly surrender possession. They'd have improved his game (as Benitez did for Perez). I don't think he's £40m worth of Premier League striker on this form, but the criticism of him is way over the top, just like the criticism of Perez was way over the top at the time as well. Luque scored 1 in 21 . Joelinton is currently 1 in 21.5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 767 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, Alex said: Thing is as well, Parker is young / inexperienced, which is obviously a risk but it might pay off. With Bruce you know exactly what you’re getting with fuck all chance of a positive outcome. At least with McClaren there was spells of success that you could pin your hopes on. What's Bruce ever done in his managerial career to get a shot at the modern Premier League? His is a career of diminishing returns, relegations and discord with the fans. The same criticisms of his time at Birmingham City still exist now, 20 years later. No apparent style, over-reliant on individuals and poor defence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 767 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: it's not like he hasn't had enough chances either. it's terrible man management. his confidence is shot. he should have been taken out of the firing line ages ago and given a run on the bench - see if he can contribute with a cameo here or there and earn his place back. Plenty of chances out of position in a team which seems allergic to the ball. His 'best' performance has been in his actual position in a game where we actually had the ball a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 767 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Luque scored 1 in 21 . Joelinton is currently 1 in 21.5 Luque scored 3 in 34 in all competitions. (11.333) Joelinton has 6 in 52. (8.666) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Carr's Gloves 509 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, The Fish said: Luque scored 3 in 34 in all competitions. (11.333) Joelinton has 6 in 52. (8.666) I was only counting Premier league as that's all we really care about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 767 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: I was only counting Premier league as that's all we really care about. well, I'd suggest that .5 difference isn't enough to say he's the worst player to have pulled on a Newcastle shirt, given the Bruce factor, but whatevs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Carr's Gloves 509 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, The Fish said: well, I'd suggest that .5 difference isn't enough to say he's the worst player to have pulled on a Newcastle shirt, given the Bruce factor, but whatevs. Would he be better under Souness? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 767 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Would he be better under Souness? Probably, Souness was bad, but Bruce is arguably the worst permanent manager we've had in my lifetime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 767 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Aarons, Atsu, Lazaar, Saivet left out the squad. Ritchie and Gayle included. Now, I know he's been a bad signing, but given the trouble we're having in the midfield, wouldn't it have been worth naming Saivet at Ritchie's expense until January? Saivet might be average-to-poor, but it's better than forcing Schar into centre mid, right? Also, it would prevent Bruce from bringing Ritchie back too early. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 5,638 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 It’s a shame we have a Wilson in the squad after Noelie had already fucked off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish 767 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, Alex said: It’s a shame we have a Wilson in the squad after Noelie had already fucked off Did he get the 'rona? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,207 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 He got the racism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trophyshy 656 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Poor Noelie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 2,993 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Bill Burr is brilliant like Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Alex 5,638 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 Best bit was he fucked off after taking the huff because the decision to delete his post wasn’t explained to him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkeys Fist 7,015 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Alex said: Best bit was he fucked off after taking the huff because the decision to delete his post wasn’t explained to him Just had a look at the post in question- fucking hell! Fruity. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Carr's Gloves 509 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Just had a look at the post in question- fucking hell! Fruity. Which post??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkeys Fist 7,015 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 This one. Spoiler 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkeys Fist 7,015 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 It was a post which was a misguided attempt at humour, I think, that used terms related to George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter campaign, Noelie probably thought there was nowt wrong with it, but I think it was more a generational thing than him being racist. He had a bit flounce though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
essembeeofsunderland 360 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 When Joelinton plays he’s shit. When he comes on as sub he’s shit. How the fuck does he deserve to be on the bench ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blastronaut 60 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 From one outsider who's got no right hovering around here to another: even I could tell you Joelinton isn't the problem. Hard to put the blame solely on Bruce either. . Proper dick move blaming the players at a club where the hierarchy signed off on letting Rafa walk in favour of bringing in Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
essembeeofsunderland 360 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Blastronaut said: From one outsider who's got no right hovering around here to another: even I could tell you Joelinton isn't the problem. Hard to put the blame solely on Bruce either. . Proper dick move blaming the players at a club where the hierarchy signed off on letting Rafa walk in favour of bringing in Bruce. Joelinton on the field is a problem.Brucey picking him is a problem.Brucey took the job on knowing what the problems would be,including accepting that Joelinton must be an ever present,unless injured. Fulwell End 27-3-70. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
essembeeofsunderland 360 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: why is it over the top? he's been awful ever since he joined. at least with perez, for all his flouncing around, and lack of pace, you could see he had a couple of redeeming features - a nice touch and he could finish Perez had his good games and quite a few good moments In league games..Joe from Linton has never had a good game in the Premier League.£40m for someone who has been shit in just about every one of his 43 Premier League games is astonishing yet still finds himself either a starter or a sub. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blastronaut 60 Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, essembeeofsunderland said: Joelinton on the field is a problem.Brucey picking him is a problem.Brucey took the job on knowing what the problems would be,including accepting that Joelinton must be an ever present,unless injured. Fulwell End 27-3-70. Sounds like an admission that Bruce isn't picking him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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