Recommend me something to watch!

[The Fish 10335]

18 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

I think with marvel it tried, admirably, to be more inclusive but it came at the cost of quality IMO. Let’s force she-hulk out there with zero context because it’s a female badass superhero and that’s all that matters really. She hulk is fucking mint and they dropped the ball hard with that character. 
 

Hopefully, deadpool 3 can help repair some of the damage, and the new captain America trailer gives me hope for the future films as it looks really decent.

 

Plus a new daredevil series which includes the punisher stands to be good so long as they allow it to be as brutal as the seasons that came before.

 

Yeah, I mean there are plenty of really good female characters, or gay characters, or whatever. Unfortunately, the writing for their screen adaptations have been pretty poor. I thought Ms Marvel was pretty well done, although I clearly wasn't the target market. The other issue is the neck bearded incels who think themselves the gatekeepers of what Marvel films/tv should look like. Review bombing the shows, which means any legit criticism is lost among a sea of cheeto dust and cry wanks.

[Dazzler 8144]

Just now, The Fish said:

 

Her comics are good. Way bette than the portrayal on the tv show, which was a bit of a meta mess

Exactly! The whole point I was making was that the source material is class but the series was completely terrible.

[Dazzler 8144]

5 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

Yeah, I mean there are plenty of really good female characters, or gay characters, or whatever. Unfortunately, the writing for their screen adaptations have been pretty poor. I thought Ms Marvel was pretty well done, although I clearly wasn't the target market. The other issue is the neck bearded incels who think themselves the gatekeepers of what Marvel films/tv should look like. Review bombing the shows, which means any legit criticism is lost among a sea of cheeto dust and cry wanks.

They should just look at black panther as the template for taking a minority marvel character and making a film that does the character justice. 
 

It just feels like an assembly line now to churn out as much content trying to reach as many demographics as possible and missing all of them.

 

Aye Ms Marvel was okay for what it was, I’m sure my daughter will love it in a few years as she hits her teenage angst phase.

[The Fish 10335]

9 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

Exactly! The whole point I was making was that the source material is class but the series was completely terrible.

It's frustrating as the stories are already there, tons of them. Stories that could speak to whatever societal issue the filmmakers want to address, or whatever arc they want to cover. Instead they're rushing something together which doesn't have the tone or pacing that the originals have. 

 

Daredevil on Netflix got it right. Arguably so did Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. The early Marvel films got it right. But everything post-Endgame has been pretty fucking bad, to be honest. (Spiderman - No Way Home aside). No confidence in Thunderbolts, the FF movie, etc.  Edit - And there were really good films that were a real departure from the source material like Ragnarok and Guardians. So you don't have to treat the comics as fucking gospel.

 

Even Blade, which should be low-hanging fruit sounds like it's lost in the reeds. And now they've announced Downey Jnr is playing Doom. Which is just misplaced fan service in my opinion.

Edited August 7 by The Fish

[Renton 20176]

10 minutes ago, The Fish said:

The other issue is the neck bearded incels

 

Yeah, perhaps just avoid genres that attract this type of person.

She and Hulk and Ms Marvel though? Genuinely thought you were both joking. 

[The Fish 10335]

4 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Yeah, perhaps just avoid genres that attract this type of person.

She and Hulk and Ms Marvel though? Genuinely thought you were both joking. 

I would do, but I like the stuff that these mooks are infecting with their toxicity.

 

If we start picking at the names of superheroes, we're in real danger. Most are fucking stupid, even the most famous ones. It's just familiarity that's made them seem less ridiculous. 

Edited August 7 by The Fish

[Renton 20176]

It's like Street Fighter. I liked it when it was 8 playable characters and 4 bosses. Now there are dozens of characters (most of which you need to pay to unlock). Fuck off, my brain can't handle it. Just stick with the classics. Although perhaps resist the temptation to reboot/remake films based on a single character dozens of times over (Spider man). 

[Dazzler 8144]

11 minutes ago, The Fish said:

It's frustrating as the stories are already there, tons of them. Stories that could speak to whatever societal issue the filmmakers want to address, or whatever arc they want to cover. Instead they're rushing something together which doesn't have the tone or pacing that the originals have. 

 

Daredevil on Netflix got it right. Arguably so did Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. The early Marvel films got it right. But everything post-Endgame has been pretty fucking bad, to be honest. (Spiderman - No Way Home aside). No confidence in Thunderbolts, the FF movie, etc.  Edit - And there were really good films that were a real departure from the source material like Ragnarok and Guardians. So you don't have to treat the comics as fucking gospel.

 

Even Blade, which should be low-hanging fruit sounds like it's lost in the reeds. And now they've announced Downey Jnr is playing Doom. Which is just misplaced fan service in my opinion.

The infamous iron man arc is the logic they are using, but even that would rely on Downey Jr being dead and replaced by Dr Doom, following a redemption arc which also relies on him being a complete bastard for a long time which won’t work as RDJ is beloved - that’s why their version of civil war was messy because Iron Man was the big bad of that comic series and a complete cunt.

 

They already have the multiverse angle to bring back an alternate Tony Stark played by RDJ if they really wanted to (and literally teased in the Dr Strange sequel), but that would be too easy.

 

I did like Moon Knight and the Captain America and Winter Soldier series but I’ve pretty much checked out since. Also, Guardians 3 was absolutely class tbf, but Gunn just gets it. His vision of DC will be class if Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are anything to go by.

[Dazzler 8144]

4 minutes ago, Renton said:

It's like Street Fighter. I liked it when it was 8 playable characters and 4 bosses. Now there are dozens of characters (most of which you need to pay to unlock). Fuck off, my brain can't handle it. Just stick with the classics. Although perhaps resist the temptation to reboot/remake films based on a single character dozens of times over (Spider man). 

The spider man versions are the most consistently good tbf, at least the first films for Maguire and Garfield and all of the MCU films. 
 

The fact that we’re going to have 2 active batmans (three if they inexplicably do something with clooney after flash) and potentially three jokers at once is too much mind you. I’m getting on now and want one person playing one version of each character.

Edited August 7 by Dazzler

[The Fish 10335]

22 minutes ago, Renton said:

It's like Street Fighter. I liked it when it was 8 playable characters and 4 bosses. Now there are dozens of characters (most of which you need to pay to unlock). Fuck off, my brain can't handle it. Just stick with the classics. Although perhaps resist the temptation to reboot/remake films based on a single character dozens of times over (Spider man). 

 

Thing is, the classics like X-Men, Fantastic Four and Spider-Man had either already been done (to varying degrees of success), or were owned by other studios. Branching out into B-tier characters was the best idea Marvel had. Now, however, they're rooting around in the B-Tier box and just pulling any old shite and trying to force a connection to current stable, without thinking about anything else.

 

22 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

The spider man versions are the most consistently good tbf, at least the first films for Maguire and Garfield and all of the MCU films. 
 

The fact that we’re going to have 2 active batmans (three if they inexplicably do something with clooney after flash) and potentially three jokers at once is too much mind you. I’m getting on now and want one person playing one version of each character.

 

I haven't watched the Flash film. No real interest, to be honest. The original Superman film, Burton and Nolan's Batman movies aside, everything from DC has been fucking terrible.

[Renton 20176]

9 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

Thing is, the classics like X-Men, Fantastic Four and Spider-Man had either already been done (to varying degrees of success), or were owned by other studios. Branching out into B-tier characters was the best idea Marvel had. Now, however, they're rooting around in the B-Tier box and just pulling any old shite and trying to force a connection to current stable, without thinking about anything else.

 

 

I haven't watched the Flash film. No real interest, to be honest. The original Superman film, Burton and Nolan's Batman movies aside, everything from DC has been fucking terrible.

 

Well, I want to resist getting into a discussion on this but iot is clearly a case of diminishing returns. Iirc nearly all the Marvel films are loss making nowadays so I expect the franchise will simply end. Thank God (imo).

 

As for your last line, one of the few films in this genre I have liked at all was Joker. Thought that was superb actually, Phoenix was brilliant in it. I always prefer films from the baddy side or about anti-heroes. 

Edited August 7 by Renton

[Dazzler 8144]

4 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

Thing is, the classics like X-Men, Fantastic Four and Spider-Man had either already been done (to varying degrees of success), or were owned by other studios. Branching out into B-tier characters was the best idea Marvel had. Now, however, they're rooting around in the B-Tier box and just pulling any old shite and trying to force a connection to current stable, without thinking about anything else.

 

 

I haven't watched the Flash film. No real interest, to be honest. The original Superman film, Burton and Nolan's Batman movies aside, everything from DC has been fucking terrible.

The Flash was okay - the CGI was hilariously bad at times but it was a decent attempt at the flashpoint story. Bringing back Keaton as Batman was a smart move but they ended it with Clooney being Affleck's replacement - which I think was nothing more than an easter egg. 

 

You should watch the suicide squad reboot and peacemaker series though - both are really good - effectively R-rated Guardians and a hard reboot of the universe. I think Gunn's vision of the DC universe stands to be everything the latest phases of marvel should have been based on the initial offerings.

[Dazzler 8144]

2 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Well, I want to resist getting into a discussion on this but iot is clearly a case of diminishing returns. Iirc nearly all the Marvel films are loss making nowadays so I expect the franchise will simply end. Than God (imo).

 

As for your last line, one of the few films in this genre I have liked at all was Joker. Thought that was superb actually, Phoenix was brilliant in it. I always prefer films from the baddy side or about anti-heroes. 

Definitely watch Peacemaker then. It's fucking hilarious.

 

Also the Joker sequel with lady gaga looks objectively terrible.

[Renton 20176]

Oh, I loved the Dead Pool films too. A bit of humour helps a lot. Also liked Kick Ass if that counts, and Sin City. For me, I think the films need to be standalone. Am I fucked spending my energies on trying to understand an alternate Universe with these silly characters. 

[The Fish 10335]

11 minutes ago, Renton said:

Oh, I loved the Dead Pool films too. A bit of humour helps a lot. Also liked Kick Ass if that counts, and Sin City. For me, I think the films need to be standalone. Am I fucked spending my energies on trying to understand an alternate Universe with these silly characters. 

Aren't all movies set in alternate Universes?

[Dazzler 8144]

8 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Aren't all movies set in alternate Universes?

Well, except documentaries.

[Renton 20176]

35 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

Well, except documentaries.

 

Well, that's just silly. Fantasy and some Sci Fi are set in alternative Universes. Got, LOTR, Star Wars, Marvel, DC. Most fiction. is set at some point on planet Earth. 

How much you are willing to invest in your alternative Universe is measured by your geek quotient. 

[Dazzler 8144]

12 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Well, that's just silly. Fantasy and some Sci Fi are set in alternative Universes. Got, LOTR, Star Wars, Marvel, DC. Most fiction. is set at some point on planet Earth. 

How much you are willing to invest in your alternative Universe is measured by your geek quotient. 

Aye but it’s an alternative version of earth in a different universe. Like a version of earth where every human is a hitman and John Wick just happens to be the hardest one for some reason.

[The Fish 10335]

1 hour ago, Dazzler said:

Aye but it’s an alternative version of earth in a different universe. Like a version of earth where every human is a hitman and John Wick just happens to be the hardest one for some reason.

Or any film where a white person joins a native population as an enemy, only to eventually become their saviour; Lawrence of Arabia, Last Samurai, Last of the Mohicans, Dances with Wolves, Dangerous Minds, Blind Side. Avatar.

 

Any film where there's a parking space right outside where the character needs it

Nobody ever going to the toilet

Any romantic comedy, ever

Any film where the only thing the girl needs to do to become suddenly hot is take off her glasses.

Any film where the police are competent

[Ayatollah Hermione 13495]

MF could get you plenty films where people go to the toilet 

[Alex 33830]

9 minutes ago, trophyshy said:

Last night demonstrated that people who share Farage’s views continue to be in the minority.  Farage should be imprisoned for his perpetual hate speech and social media needs to seriously reconsider its ability to foster and sustain bubbles of hatred. Elon Musk is, somewhat incredibly, a moronic billionaire who should reconsider his ketamine “therapy”.   

 

Migration is only going to continue as our attempts to mitigate climate change have been pathetic and inequality expands. The countries that can afford to adapt will look increasingly attractive to those that can’t. We need humane and realistic solutions to this. 

 

Anger in the UK should be directed toward those who have exploited, divided and lied to us for generations. Not people who are, mostly, just seeking a half-decent life.

3 stars. Flawed but interesting 

[Ayatollah Hermione 13495]

Started watching Sunny atm. Not It’s Always Sunny but the new Apple TV thing with Rashida Jones. So far, it’s a light sci-fi with a mystery attached and it’s not bad at all. Doesn’t get anywhere near the heights or style of Severance but if you like that sort of thing, it’s an easy binge 

[Gemmill 42021]

Ah I saw the trailer for this then forgot about it. Cheers for the reminder. 

[Meenzer 15028]

Might just be CT and me, but this is going to be magnificent

 

 

[Kid Dynamite 6795]

Daughters. Documentary on Netflix about a scheme in the US prison system where Dads get a chance to have a prom night with their daughters. This prison has stopped all face to face visits and charged families for video calls, so some of the dads haven't seen their daughters for years. 

 

Started slow but when it got to the night of the dance I was in absolute pieces.

Edited August 21 by Kid Dynamite