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Ketsbaia, did you manage to get a job in journalism?

 

Edit: Suddenly, everyone is very interested.

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I'm currently involved in a communications/PR type role. It's something I debated going into when at uni due to the world of journalism looking like it's in terminal decline but having spent the best part of a year here I'm becoming increasingly bored by the whole thing. It may have something to do with the fact my role has changed slightly over recent months and I feel like I've became a bit of an office dogsbody.

 

I'm very worried that if I don't try and do something about it now this is the type of stuff I'll get stuck doing for the rest of my life. Obviously that's overly dramatic but that's how it feels at the minute.

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I'm currently involved in a communications/PR type role. It's something I debated going into when at uni due to the world of journalism looking like it's in terminal decline but having spent the best part of a year here I'm becoming increasingly bored by the whole thing. It may have something to do with the fact my role has changed slightly over recent months and I feel like I've became a bit of an office dogsbody.

 

I'm very worried that if I don't try and do something about it now this is the type of stuff I'll get stuck doing for the rest of my life. Obviously that's overly dramatic but that's how it feels at the minute.

 

Bit of a cliche but you probably need to think what you really want to do first before you can enable this to happen. Don't panic or feel depressed, but whatever you do don't let it slip either, otherwise your fears will be well founded.

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I'm currently involved in a communications/PR type role. It's something I debated going into when at uni due to the world of journalism looking like it's in terminal decline but having spent the best part of a year here I'm becoming increasingly bored by the whole thing. It may have something to do with the fact my role has changed slightly over recent months and I feel like I've became a bit of an office dogsbody.

 

I'm very worried that if I don't try and do something about it now this is the type of stuff I'll get stuck doing for the rest of my life. Obviously that's overly dramatic but that's how it feels at the minute.

 

Bit of a cliche but you probably need to think what you really want to do first before you can enable this to happen. Don't panic or feel depressed, but whatever you do don't let it slip either, otherwise your fears will be well founded.

 

I think the major problem is in my heart of hearts I know exactly what I want to do, it's just horrendously difficult to get a foot in the door.

 

On the upside this minor panic has saw me apply for four jobs I genuinely want to do over the past fortnight.

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I'm currently involved in a communications/PR type role. It's something I debated going into when at uni due to the world of journalism looking like it's in terminal decline but having spent the best part of a year here I'm becoming increasingly bored by the whole thing. It may have something to do with the fact my role has changed slightly over recent months and I feel like I've became a bit of an office dogsbody.

 

I'm very worried that if I don't try and do something about it now this is the type of stuff I'll get stuck doing for the rest of my life. Obviously that's overly dramatic but that's how it feels at the minute.

 

Bit of a cliche but you probably need to think what you really want to do first before you can enable this to happen. Don't panic or feel depressed, but whatever you do don't let it slip either, otherwise your fears will be well founded.

 

I think the major problem is in my heart of hearts I know exactly what I want to do, it's just horrendously difficult to get a foot in the door.

 

On the upside this minor panic has saw me apply for four jobs I genuinely want to do over the past fortnight.

 

Aye, better to aim high and you never know, anyway you might get something else better in the process. Remain apthetic and you'll get what you deserve - that was the story of my life in my 20s. :o Good luck anyway.

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I'm drifting through life in one coffee and energy fuelled haze at the moment. Working in A&E with a fairly gruelling rota, and when I'm not at work I'm in the gym or on the mat training for my jujiitsu grading at the end of June, scant time for a social life. I've already done six weeks here so it's going quite quickly. I'm looking forward to starting my anaesthetics post in August, although I'm beginning to wish it wasn't in Yorkshire as Leeds is looking a bit stale. A lot of my friends are heading to other parts of the UK and the world at this time also. Nearly all the friends of mine that will remain are settled into couples, I thought I was until recently but it wasn't to be.

 

I don't feel down or anything and I am enjoying my job and training but I guess life feels rather on hold until August, certainly don't see myself embarking on anything approaching a relationship until I break free from the shackles of A&E and jitsu respectively.

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I'm drifting through life in one coffee and energy fuelled haze at the moment. Working in A&E with a fairly gruelling rota, and when I'm not at work I'm in the gym or on the mat training for my jujiitsu grading at the end of June, scant time for a social life. I've already done six weeks here so it's going quite quickly. I'm looking forward to starting my anaesthetics post in August, although I'm beginning to wish it wasn't in Yorkshire as Leeds is looking a bit stale. A lot of my friends are heading to other parts of the UK and the world at this time also. Nearly all the friends of mine that will remain are settled into couples, I thought I was until recently but it wasn't to be.

 

I don't feel down or anything and I am enjoying my job and training but I guess life feels rather on hold until August, certainly don't see myself embarking on anything approaching a relationship until I break free from the shackles of A&E and jitsu respectively.

 

What field are you interested in doing Luke?

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I'm currently involved in a communications/PR type role. It's something I debated going into when at uni due to the world of journalism looking like it's in terminal decline but having spent the best part of a year here I'm becoming increasingly bored by the whole thing. It may have something to do with the fact my role has changed slightly over recent months and I feel like I've became a bit of an office dogsbody.

 

I'm very worried that if I don't try and do something about it now this is the type of stuff I'll get stuck doing for the rest of my life. Obviously that's overly dramatic but that's how it feels at the minute.

 

Bit of a cliche but you probably need to think what you really want to do first before you can enable this to happen. Don't panic or feel depressed, but whatever you do don't let it slip either, otherwise your fears will be well founded.

 

Excellent advice.

 

Theres nothing worse than being stuck in a job you dislike with no clear escape route.

 

In my early 20's I sold 3pce suites and used to absolutely detest the job but with a small family, mortgage and recession (Thanks Maggie) I had no choice but keep on at it and only escaped by luck really.

 

Depending what line your in PR can be a really tough job as well. The clients usually want the world for pennies and theres only so many times a contact in the media will run with your newspaper filler.

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I'm drifting through life in one coffee and energy fuelled haze at the moment. Working in A&E with a fairly gruelling rota, and when I'm not at work I'm in the gym or on the mat training for my jujiitsu grading at the end of June, scant time for a social life. I've already done six weeks here so it's going quite quickly. I'm looking forward to starting my anaesthetics post in August, although I'm beginning to wish it wasn't in Yorkshire as Leeds is looking a bit stale. A lot of my friends are heading to other parts of the UK and the world at this time also. Nearly all the friends of mine that will remain are settled into couples, I thought I was until recently but it wasn't to be.

 

I don't feel down or anything and I am enjoying my job and training but I guess life feels rather on hold until August, certainly don't see myself embarking on anything approaching a relationship until I break free from the shackles of A&E and jitsu respectively.

 

What field are you interested in doing Luke?

 

Anaesthetics, start specialist training in August, sorry if I didn't make that clear.

 

Unless you meant what kind of anaesthesia, in which case I really don't know yet, although I did do a four month job in ICU last year which I really enjoyed.

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I'm drifting through life in one coffee and energy fuelled haze at the moment. Working in A&E with a fairly gruelling rota, and when I'm not at work I'm in the gym or on the mat training for my jujiitsu grading at the end of June, scant time for a social life. I've already done six weeks here so it's going quite quickly. I'm looking forward to starting my anaesthetics post in August, although I'm beginning to wish it wasn't in Yorkshire as Leeds is looking a bit stale. A lot of my friends are heading to other parts of the UK and the world at this time also. Nearly all the friends of mine that will remain are settled into couples, I thought I was until recently but it wasn't to be.

 

I don't feel down or anything and I am enjoying my job and training but I guess life feels rather on hold until August, certainly don't see myself embarking on anything approaching a relationship until I break free from the shackles of A&E and jitsu respectively.

 

What field are you interested in doing Luke?

 

Anaesthetics, start specialist training in August, sorry if I didn't make that clear.

 

Unless you meant what kind of anaesthesia, in which case I really don't know yet, although I did do a four month job in ICU last year which I really enjoyed.

 

Lots of nice young incapacitated bodies to play with, eh, eh? :o

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Shit mood now, failed in yet another job app because of experience

 

This the i.t career? its a bollocks to get started in tbh, you need to be get lucky to get around the catch-22 scenario of needing experiance/a job to get the experiance, or you need to go in to a graduate entry job from a software engineering degree or something

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I'm drifting through life in one coffee and energy fuelled haze at the moment. Working in A&E with a fairly gruelling rota, and when I'm not at work I'm in the gym or on the mat training for my jujiitsu grading at the end of June, scant time for a social life. I've already done six weeks here so it's going quite quickly. I'm looking forward to starting my anaesthetics post in August, although I'm beginning to wish it wasn't in Yorkshire as Leeds is looking a bit stale. A lot of my friends are heading to other parts of the UK and the world at this time also. Nearly all the friends of mine that will remain are settled into couples, I thought I was until recently but it wasn't to be.

 

I don't feel down or anything and I am enjoying my job and training but I guess life feels rather on hold until August, certainly don't see myself embarking on anything approaching a relationship until I break free from the shackles of A&E and jitsu respectively.

 

What field are you interested in doing Luke?

 

Anaesthetics, start specialist training in August, sorry if I didn't make that clear.

 

Unless you meant what kind of anaesthesia, in which case I really don't know yet, although I did do a four month job in ICU last year which I really enjoyed.

 

Lots of nice young incapacitated bodies to play with, eh, eh? :o

 

Lots of machines that go bing. :D

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I'm currently involved in a communications/PR type role. It's something I debated going into when at uni due to the world of journalism looking like it's in terminal decline but having spent the best part of a year here I'm becoming increasingly bored by the whole thing. It may have something to do with the fact my role has changed slightly over recent months and I feel like I've became a bit of an office dogsbody.

 

I'm very worried that if I don't try and do something about it now this is the type of stuff I'll get stuck doing for the rest of my life. Obviously that's overly dramatic but that's how it feels at the minute.

 

Bit of a cliche but you probably need to think what you really want to do first before you can enable this to happen. Don't panic or feel depressed, but whatever you do don't let it slip either, otherwise your fears will be well founded.

 

Excellent advice.

 

Theres nothing worse than being stuck in a job you dislike with no clear escape route.

 

In my early 20's I sold 3pce suites and used to absolutely detest the job but with a small family, mortgage and recession (Thanks Maggie) I had no choice but keep on at it and only escaped by luck really.

 

Depending what line your in PR can be a really tough job as well. The clients usually want the world for pennies and theres only so many times a contact in the media will run with your newspaper filler.

 

Any chance you could give me a bit more info about your time and experiences in PR? I don't want to write the entire comms/marketing thing off on the basis of a few glum months but I have kind of went into it blind on the basis of having a related degree and I haven't had the chance to chat to someone properly about it as a career.

 

I'd be hugely grateful if you could drop me a PM or something.

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I'm currently involved in a communications/PR type role. It's something I debated going into when at uni due to the world of journalism looking like it's in terminal decline but having spent the best part of a year here I'm becoming increasingly bored by the whole thing. It may have something to do with the fact my role has changed slightly over recent months and I feel like I've became a bit of an office dogsbody.

 

I'm very worried that if I don't try and do something about it now this is the type of stuff I'll get stuck doing for the rest of my life. Obviously that's overly dramatic but that's how it feels at the minute.

 

Bit of a cliche but you probably need to think what you really want to do first before you can enable this to happen. Don't panic or feel depressed, but whatever you do don't let it slip either, otherwise your fears will be well founded.

 

Excellent advice.

 

Theres nothing worse than being stuck in a job you dislike with no clear escape route.

 

In my early 20's I sold 3pce suites and used to absolutely detest the job but with a small family, mortgage and recession (Thanks Maggie) I had no choice but keep on at it and only escaped by luck really.

 

Depending what line your in PR can be a really tough job as well. The clients usually want the world for pennies and theres only so many times a contact in the media will run with your newspaper filler.

 

Any chance you could give me a bit more info about your time and experiences in PR? I don't want to write the entire comms/marketing thing off on the basis of a few glum months but I have kind of went into it blind on the basis of having a related degree and I haven't had the chance to chat to someone properly about it as a career.

 

I'd be hugely grateful if you could drop me a PM or something.

 

2 penneth for what it's worth.

 

I am a former journalist turned PR. I loved the former, but the latter is just a job.

 

But it's a good job that will pay the bills, even if you can get in to journalism you might have to wait a while to get to a point where the money is sufficient to make ends meet. I jumped ship after getting impatient for that point to arrive. Most of the people I worked with at the time have done similar.

 

I started off in-house and then switched to agency and am now going back in house. Of the two an in-house role is more secure and arguably less demanding.

 

I haven't enjoyed agency as you have little control over your destiny, good ideas trampled on by clients, recession meaning even though you're doing an excellent job the client dumps you. People misinterpreting EU law and making you tender for every piece of work (regardless how small).

 

There are two ways of going about it for me, either specialise in something you like (sport, entertainment, fashion for which you'll need London) or be a generalist and move around quickly and that way up the ladder.

I have found a niche in environmental PR that is starting to pay off, but it took 5 years to make it to PR manager.

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2 penneth for what it's worth.

 

I am a former journalist turned PR. I loved the former, but the latter is just a job.

 

But it's a good job that will pay the bills, even if you can get in to journalism you might have to wait a while to get to a point where the money is sufficient to make ends meet. I jumped ship after getting impatient for that point to arrive. Most of the people I worked with at the time have done similar.

 

I started off in-house and then switched to agency and am now going back in house. Of the two an in-house role is more secure and arguably less demanding.

 

I haven't enjoyed agency as you have little control over your destiny, good ideas trampled on by clients, recession meaning even though you're doing an excellent job the client dumps you. People misinterpreting EU law and making you tender for every piece of work (regardless how small).

 

There are two ways of going about it for me, either specialise in something you like (sport, entertainment, fashion for which you'll need London) or be a generalist and move around quickly and that way up the ladder.

I have found a niche in environmental PR that is starting to pay off, but it took 5 years to make it to PR manager.

 

I worked for one of the largest specialty PR agency (auto) in Australia for 12 years, not as a journalist but as their Television/Video Producer and donaldstott has described the possibilities to a T.

He's especially correct about the sport/entertainment/fashion roles and to be honest they are populated by a lot of journos from magazines in their fields who realised there is more money to be made in PR for the same products - they generally return later to senior journalist roles later in their career.

 

From experience if you have an interest in the automotive industry you couldn't do worse that 75% of the PR people out there working for car manufacturers. It's hard but if you can get in with a decent agency working on an auto account, 12-24 months later, if you are any good, you will find people are head hunting you.

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Got nothing to add to the thread like but I got a kick out of Acid calling his place of employment a "brassiere." Those women's underthings can be tricky sometimes lad but keep at it :o I did 9 years at a restaurant, started out class and had turned into an utter shithole by the time I left. Very stressful work.

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Got nothing to add to the thread like but I got a kick out of Acid calling his place of employment a "brassiere." Those women's underthings can be tricky sometimes lad but keep at it :o I did 9 years at a restaurant, started out class and had turned into an utter shithole by the time I left. Very stressful work.

 

Good work mate. :D

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Good mood. got my suit and picking it up tomorrow. Had very tasty lunch in great company. All in all, a good day so far.

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Got nothing to add to the thread like but I got a kick out of Acid calling his place of employment a "brassiere." Those women's underthings can be tricky sometimes lad but keep at it :o I did 9 years at a restaurant, started out class and had turned into an utter shithole by the time I left. Very stressful work.

 

Good work mate. :D

 

I take pride in my work :razz: But seriously, the place was owned by a crackpot, a fat Greek bastard who owned two restaurants on the same street - one a greasy dive that's been open for 48 years, standard American/Greek diner food, the other a more upscale Mediterranean place (the one where I worked.) Over time, he increasingly tried to turn his classy place into a diner (on the reasoning that the diner was making more money and doing better in general.) Needless to say, there was a negative correlation between "dinerhood" and "customer base" and he can hardly pay the rent for the formerly classy bistro-style place any longer.

 

I never cease to be amazed when I think about how effectively he transformed an upscale bistro with great food, a good wine list, tasteful decor, professional wait staff, a head chef and menu planner, etc etc into a shitty chipped-table dusty-fake-grapes dump with awful service - people who honestly couldn't even carry a plate properly - high prices, a terrible bunch of Mexican primadonnas running the kitchen, etc etc. The Mike Ashley of New York restaurants.

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I'm just in the mood for some cheap drugs- I'm thinking Viagra etc.

Anyone know any annoying spamming twats that can help me out?

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I'm currently involved in a communications/PR type role. It's something I debated going into when at uni due to the world of journalism looking like it's in terminal decline but having spent the best part of a year here I'm becoming increasingly bored by the whole thing. It may have something to do with the fact my role has changed slightly over recent months and I feel like I've became a bit of an office dogsbody.

 

I'm very worried that if I don't try and do something about it now this is the type of stuff I'll get stuck doing for the rest of my life. Obviously that's overly dramatic but that's how it feels at the minute.

 

Bit of a cliche but you probably need to think what you really want to do first before you can enable this to happen. Don't panic or feel depressed, but whatever you do don't let it slip either, otherwise your fears will be well founded.

 

Excellent advice.

 

Theres nothing worse than being stuck in a job you dislike with no clear escape route.

 

In my early 20's I sold 3pce suites and used to absolutely detest the job but with a small family, mortgage and recession (Thanks Maggie) I had no choice but keep on at it and only escaped by luck really.

 

Depending what line your in PR can be a really tough job as well. The clients usually want the world for pennies and theres only so many times a contact in the media will run with your newspaper filler.

 

Any chance you could give me a bit more info about your time and experiences in PR? I don't want to write the entire comms/marketing thing off on the basis of a few glum months but I have kind of went into it blind on the basis of having a related degree and I haven't had the chance to chat to someone properly about it as a career.

 

I'd be hugely grateful if you could drop me a PM or something.

 

 

Think you've got some better feedback from Donaldstott and Sammynb. My main experience is being the client doing all the nasty shit Donald refers too.

 

I paid £35,000 a year and expected hundreds of local insertions as well as the main dailys and a few run outs in the business section of the Times. If you know what a newspaper ad costs then you know this was dam good value or money.

 

I genuinely believe it is a very tough game, particularly in this climate and whether its right for you depends on so many things.

 

It also depends on whether your actually any good at it! I always found the best PR people were female. They seem to have a hidden gene that is ideal for making that brain numbing small talk that opens doors and gets articles printed.

 

I always think that its a twat about life that your supposed to make your mind up about what you want to spend the rest of your life doing at 18.

 

How the fuck do you know whats going to make you happy at 18. For those who do know, good on yer.

 

At 16 I wanted to be an archeologist, at 18 a banker and then suddenly I found out i'd fucked up (not given a shit about ) gse's and was suddenly working as an apprentice butcher.

 

I did enjoy, and was good, at marketing but had a boss who'd made every living day hell.

 

Now at 44 I drive a taxi during hours to suit me and have more free time than I've ever had. Part of me sometimes wishes to be back in the cut and thrust of business, but the bigger part is very happy with the life I have.

 

I would urge anyone to do what makes them happy. Avoid debt at all costs as this will give you a lot more freedom in what you have to accept a long this lovely road of life.

 

Yes, this is the 4 Kronneburgs post, but true none the less. :o

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