Toonpack 6869 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 If we keep worrying about bruiser-type players who will 'do' HBA, he'll never get a game because every side has them. I agree that Wolves are particularly bad for that sort of thing and he's not entirely fit yet, so another sub appearance, perhaps on 65-70 minutes, would be the way forward for this game. But Ben Arfa is one of the players of real quality in this side and he has to start when fully fit, whether against Tottenham/Arsenal/Wigan/other 'softer' sides, or against Stoke and Wolves. You don't see David Silva or Luis Suarez, for example, not starting vs. those physical sides for fear that they'll get injured. They have a job to do and they have to do it against whatever opposition they face, same as HBA does. Agree with that, however the threat (of an injury recurrance, and similar impact related injuries) with HBA is greater. Opposition outfields (with a hatchet-man) will set their radar on him, due to the fact that when fit he is the 'key man' in the final 1/3, particularly in the hole where he is more vulnerable to the attention of a loose playing defensive midfielder ie. De Jong. We have little to offer in the form of that ability, to shift the focus away from him. With the likes of Man C and Liv, the attacking threat is more widespread Sorry but you don't buy a Ferrari to park in the garage and catch the fucking metro. In the winter you do, the salt on the roads fucks them up good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6188 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 If we keep worrying about bruiser-type players who will 'do' HBA, he'll never get a game because every side has them. I agree that Wolves are particularly bad for that sort of thing and he's not entirely fit yet, so another sub appearance, perhaps on 65-70 minutes, would be the way forward for this game. But Ben Arfa is one of the players of real quality in this side and he has to start when fully fit, whether against Tottenham/Arsenal/Wigan/other 'softer' sides, or against Stoke and Wolves. You don't see David Silva or Luis Suarez, for example, not starting vs. those physical sides for fear that they'll get injured. They have a job to do and they have to do it against whatever opposition they face, same as HBA does. Agree with that, however the threat (of an injury recurrance, and similar impact related injuries) with HBA is greater. Opposition outfields (with a hatchet-man) will set their radar on him, due to the fact that when fit he is the 'key man' in the final 1/3, particularly in the hole where he is more vulnerable to the attention of a loose playing defensive midfielder ie. De Jong. We have little to offer in the form of that ability, to shift the focus away from him. With the likes of Man C and Liv, the attacking threat is more widespread Sorry but you don't buy a Ferrari to park in the garage and catch the fucking metro. Point is when that Ferarri has just had major extensive work done and been off the road for some time you don't want to take it out for a fang on Nurburgring without a few more km on the odometer on some more friendly drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 If we keep worrying about bruiser-type players who will 'do' HBA, he'll never get a game because every side has them. I agree that Wolves are particularly bad for that sort of thing and he's not entirely fit yet, so another sub appearance, perhaps on 65-70 minutes, would be the way forward for this game. But Ben Arfa is one of the players of real quality in this side and he has to start when fully fit, whether against Tottenham/Arsenal/Wigan/other 'softer' sides, or against Stoke and Wolves. You don't see David Silva or Luis Suarez, for example, not starting vs. those physical sides for fear that they'll get injured. They have a job to do and they have to do it against whatever opposition they face, same as HBA does. Agree with that, however the threat (of an injury recurrance, and similar impact related injuries) with HBA is greater. Opposition outfields (with a hatchet-man) will set their radar on him, due to the fact that when fit he is the 'key man' in the final 1/3, particularly in the hole where he is more vulnerable to the attention of a loose playing defensive midfielder ie. De Jong. We have little to offer in the form of that ability, to shift the focus away from him. With the likes of Man C and Liv, the attacking threat is more widespread Sorry but you don't buy a Ferrari to park in the garage and catch the fucking metro. Point is when that Ferarri has just had major extensive work done and been off the road for some time you don't want to take it out for a fang on Nurburgring without a few more km on the odometer on some more friendly drives. I reckon the Ferrari should come back from the repairers as good as new, fuck it I'll have spent enough on it, I want to take it out for a workout not a namby pamby friendly drive. If it's not in tip top condition, I reckon I'd want to send it back and get it sorted our properly, I mean it probably costs a fortune to get your Ferrari repaired, so you want it sorted right away. Otherwise you'd want to fuck it over and claim the insurance, then get yourself another one you can use. Or maybe even a different supercar, maybe something a bit more reliable than the Ferrari, possibly a nice Porsche. In fact it's quite likely your faith in Ferraris would be damaged by now so you'd probably want to get something different anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6188 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Every time i see this thread i think oh no he's injured again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9006 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I'm posting in here for no other reason than to worry Phil. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 86 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 hoping he gets a run out against spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 well if he does and if he survives the full 90 mins il be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Declared out for another 5 weeks, twisted ankle. Jk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 haha funny lol hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 i fell for that you little cunterhead hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Hehehe love you deaderz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6188 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Should be a good game for him to be given a lengthy run out, maybe even start (though I don't think Pardew will change anything, despite the fact that we got desperately lucky against Wolves). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 HATEM Ben Arfa is back on Tyneside. The Newcastle United midfielder was granted a leave of absence last week after a family member was taken ill in Tunisia. It meant that the French international star was withdrawn from the reserve side that beat Bolton Wanderers 3-0 in Leyland. Ben Arfa though is now raring to go for the meeting with Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday at St James' Park. And Chroniclelive can reveal the former Marseille ace trained yesterday in preparation for the Premier League clash. United boss Alan Pardew will be eagerly waiting to see if Yohan Cabaye comes through France's Euro 2012 qualifier with Bosnia later tonight after the ex-Lille star picked up an ankle knock against Albania.[/left] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7igdz_ben-arfa-et-sa-vision-du-jeu-surnat_sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Those through balls. Dreamy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 http://www.dailymoti...eu-surnat_sport We should go for his old mate Benzema in the summer, see if they'll take Lovenkrands in a swap deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 CT has gone to war with half of NO over Bafra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4224 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 lets have a link, never been on NO outside linked pages here and I dont plan to start now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 lets have a link, never been on NO outside linked pages here and I dont plan to start now Quote from: Elliottman on Yesterday at 06:07:15 PM Two ways this thread can go - 1. Oak Tree and Baggio are proved right, Ben Arfa fails, chins Pardew, gets sold to The Scum for £40 worth of Casino Chips. Oak Tree and Baggio reign supreme on N-O for the rest of time and we never question them again or 2. Ben Arfa gets some games under his belt over the course of the next 3 months, gets a bit sharper and becomes the good player we all know he is and want to be. We get to so a big group 'f*** YOU' to Oak Tree and his opinions in future are forever mocked. Don't forget the third way! You read my posts correctly and see I have never said he will fail. Having re-read these posts you realise that describing his Everton appearance as Average is not a crime akin to drowning kittens. Even tonight, John Anderson is making the same sort of comments about HBA on Total Sport. Perhaps the BBC should sack him? I repeat, I have not said He's s*** or hoped that he fails. I do hope he plays a blinder and scores a hat-trick in the next game. http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,70504.22600.html There's an investigation going on frame by frame of his minutes against Everton... I've never seen anything like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Baggio back is he? He could be CT's long lost son tbh. Do me a favour will you, Parky? Ask Baggio if the name Stuttering Badger means anything to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Baggio back is he? He could be CT's long lost son tbh. Do me a favour will you, Parky? Ask Baggio if the name Stuttering Badger means anything to him. Will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Baggio black is he? He could be CT's long lost son tbh. Do me a favour will you, Parky? Ask Baggio if the name Stuttering Badger means anything to him. Fixed your typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Baggio black is he? He could be CT's long lost son tbh. Do me a favour will you, Parky? Ask Baggio if the name Stuttering Badger means anything to him. Fixed your typo. Is THAT still on here somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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