Alex 30404 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) The weight issue is a slightly odd one if it's true it was only 1.5 kilos (or about 3 lbs) as it seems like an excuse. What further complicated the matter was that with the various stories going back and forth it was not clear whether it was Ben Arfa trying to make out that he was being forced out (I think it first emerged in the French press) or if it was the club making a mountain out of a molehill just to get rid of someone they didn't want (quite possibly a bit of both). I think it's worth pointing out though that you have a manager who obviously favours a strong team ethic over individuals (fair enough in itself whatever you think of Pardew the manager) and then you bring in a player who has a history of fall outs and is the archetypal individual in a footballing sense. Then when said player falls out with the manager for not being a team player the rhetoric from the club tries to make out it's all the player's fault. In hindsight it seems like he was never going to be Pardew's cup of tea and we only signed him because he was cheap and he only came here because more attractive clubs weren't prepared to take the risk. Bearing all that in mind I don't think you can just point to the player when it was clearly a signing that lacked "planning" Edited July 30, 2014 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13846 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Does anyone have the Coloccini quotes where he said anything negative about Hatem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34450 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Has there really been 'glee' at the fact he's on his way? I just couldn't believe some of the childish insistence that it was entirely the fault of the manager. Ant, you latching on to a Lee Ryder tweet as evidence that Milan are in for him has not gone unnoticed. Desperate times... :razz; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3468 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I resigned myself to the idea of losing him long ago. I've already half prepared myself for the same situation to occur again with someone like Cabella in a couple of years time.That solo effort against Bolton When will we next have a player who'll be capable of doing anything like that? Just happy I got to see someone like this at NUFC, especially under someone as dross as Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Why would it be for you? I thought you rated him and didn't want him to leave. I find it particularly strange in your case because you've always wanted to see flair players like Lua Lua, Shane Ferguson and Marveaux be given a chance yet you've never applied the same standard to Ben Arfa when he's clearly more talented than all of them. He's more effective too, especially when on form. I admit that isn't as often as anyone would have hoped for or wanted but, none of the other players you've wanted to see play have been consistent either and certainly in the case of Marveaux and Ferguson they've been guilty of going missing in games too. My problems more been with people over hyping HBA. He has a few tricks but has never delivered on a regular basis. Sure he's scored a few crackers and can occasionally dribble past a few defenders, but more often than not his final decision making was very poor. As for Marveaux and Ferguson, neither has been given a fair go. Ferguson actually created three assists in three games and was still dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Has there really been 'glee' at the fact he's on his way? I just couldn't believe some of the childish insistence that it was entirely the fault of the manager. Ant, you latching on to a Lee Ryder tweet as evidence that Milan are in for him has not gone unnoticed. Desperate times... :razz; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3468 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 My problems more been with people over hyping HBA. He has a few tricks but has never delivered on a regular basis. Sure he's scored a few crackers and can occasionally dribble past a few defenders, but more often than not his final decision making was very poor. As for Marveaux and Ferguson, neither has been given a fair go. Ferguson actually created three assists in three games and was still dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Creating an assist, that's a new one for Opta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Why would it be for you? I thought you rated him and didn't want him to leave. I find it particularly strange in your case because you've always wanted to see flair players like Lua Lua, Shane Ferguson and Marveaux be given a chance yet you've never applied the same standard to Ben Arfa when he's clearly more talented than all of them. He's more effective too, especially when on form. I admit that isn't as often as anyone would have hoped for or wanted but, none of the other players you've wanted to see play have been consistent either and certainly in the case of Marveaux and Ferguson they've been guilty of going missing in games too. He's got pics of Shane in a schoolgirl outfit, that's basically it innit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I resigned myself to the idea of losing him long ago. I've already half prepared myself for the same situation to occur again with someone like Cabella in a couple of years time. That solo effort against Bolton When will we next have a player who'll be capable of doing anything like that? Just happy I got to see someone like this at NUFC, especially under someone as dross as Pardew. The same thing will happen with Cabella unless he runs his arse off every game and 'looks busy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30404 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 My problems more been with people over hyping HBA. He has a few tricks but has never delivered on a regular basis. Sure he's scored a few crackers and can occasionally dribble past a few defenders, but more often than not his final decision making was very poor. As for Marveaux and Ferguson, neither has been given a fair go. Ferguson actually created three assists in three games and was still dropped. It's that sort of hypocrisy that makes people question your motives and sincerity iyam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13846 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Some kids on twitter got a photo with Fat Bastard himself this morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Unless Pardew gets sacked, it seems better for both parties if he goes. Theres no way otherwise hes going to get any significant game time, so whats the point of having him? Other than to finish up the leftovers and save on waste disposal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 You can see by that pick that he wasn't that ridiculously over weight at all and has trimmed up with a couple of weeks training...Typical spin by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 You can see by that pick that he wasn't that ridiculously over weight at all and has trimmed up with a couple of weeks training...Typical spin by the club. Photoshopped init. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Photoshopped init. Would like to see him on the right with Cabella on the left and Sissy just behind the striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34450 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Would like to see him on the right with Cabella on the left and Sissy just behind the striker. Aye would make a great photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26335 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Not fat? He needs a bra ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Not fat? He needs a bra ffs. Give over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3468 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Would like to see him on the right with Cabella on the left and Sissy just behind the striker. Or De Jong behind the striker with Sissoko and Anita behind them. Would love to see but its never going to happen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Someone tell that kid about the socks and trainers rule FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Or De Jong behind the striker with Sissoko and Anita behind them. Would love to see but its never going to happen now. No Tiote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Someone tell that kid about the socks and trainers rule FFS. The rules have changed lately pal. Get with the times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19824 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 fuckign tragedy if he goes. a fit and firing ben arfa alongside de jonag and cabella, with a new striker and two from tiote, sissoko and collback sitting deeper is as good looking a midfield as we've had for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Thought he hadn't been given a number ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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