2bias 3 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Why does Youtube not count anyway? Does MOTD on saturday night not count either? Essentially the same thing. Assuming it was that player to watch one, it doesn't count for a lot. Seeing highlights on MOTD would give you a better idea, seeing the whole game live more so, watching him in the flesh more again. You could glean virtually nothing from the clip I've seen though. This is a bit daft though, isn't it? It essentially boils down to CT making the claim he could be better than Robert for us. The clear argument against being that he's on about somebody you can pretty much guarantee he's knows fuck all about It was a general comment not related to Marveaux. Whole game and in the flesh agreed but if its only limited highlights you can't really say its much different. It doesnt matter where you see a player, if you see examples of his technique, close control etc it doesnt really matter it still 'counts', just not as much as whole games and in the flesh. The idea that footage uploaded to a particular website is inadmissable evidence seems a bit odd. Doesnt count for much but it still counts. Don't think 2bias meant 'nothing' literally tbf, more like what you say, i.e. it counts for very little. You tend to find out more about a player from watching him on MOTD a few times than a compilation though, imo. Especially the compilation I saw. If there's another one out there where he's banging them in from 35 yards and whipping great crosses in though I'll concede the Robert comparison has some merit. It just baffles me where you get all this from CT and your not the only one. Surely if he is as good as you say he would of had a call up by now, granted he has been injured the last year or so but before? If you were some ligue 1 guru then fair enough I could accept what you say about him but my guess is you aren't Fuck it your prediction is going in my signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Why does Youtube not count anyway? Does MOTD on saturday night not count either? Essentially the same thing. Assuming it was that player to watch one, it doesn't count for a lot. Seeing highlights on MOTD would give you a better idea, seeing the whole game live more so, watching him in the flesh more again. You could glean virtually nothing from the clip I've seen though. This is a bit daft though, isn't it? It essentially boils down to CT making the claim he could be better than Robert for us. The clear argument against being that he's on about somebody you can pretty much guarantee he's knows fuck all about It was a general comment not related to Marveaux. Whole game and in the flesh agreed but if its only limited highlights you can't really say its much different. It doesnt matter where you see a player, if you see examples of his technique, close control etc it doesnt really matter it still 'counts', just not as much as whole games and in the flesh. The idea that footage uploaded to a particular website is inadmissable evidence seems a bit odd. Doesnt count for much but it still counts. Don't think 2bias meant 'nothing' literally tbf, more like what you say, i.e. it counts for very little. You tend to find out more about a player from watching him on MOTD a few times than a compilation though, imo. Especially the compilation I saw. If there's another one out there where he's banging them in from 35 yards and whipping great crosses in though I'll concede the Robert comparison has some merit. It just baffles me where you get all this from CT and your not the only one. Surely if he is as good as you say he would of had a call up by now, granted he has been injured the last year or so but before? If you were some ligue 1 guru then fair enough I could accept what you say about him but my guess is you aren't Fuck it your prediction is going in my signature. Which bit didnt you understand in the five or six points listed????? Can I suggest you do a bit of your own research on the player then come back and tell us what YOU think And if you need to guess about me being a ligue 1 guru then you need to pay more attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 His form up until the last year < read form wikipediaThe evidence of his style of play on You Tube < youtube? X I S C O The way Beardsley and the journos were Jizzing about him after his reserve game < Beardsley the company man? The fact he was on the verge of signing at Liverpool < they paid 35m for carroll and 20m for Henderson The glimpses of skill that he showed against Scunny < the league 1 side that took us to extra time? A bit more than "nothing" in his favour. See bold bits not that i'm saying he's shite, but your reasoning is silly Im sorry like, but my reasoning is better than your anti reasoning It doesnt take a PHD in european football to understand that until a year or so ago, this lad was shit hot (according to lots of sources) While youtube is no way definitive, it still lets you have a look at a players style of play. (You used it yourself yesterday to highlight Santons weaknesses at left back) The Beardsley point is daft. He made two, scored one and hugely impressed all who saw. Was still on verge of signing several weeks ago having impressed their scouts etc. The scunny game was a tough game, but he did show glimpses (even though he was far from match fit) of the skill he has. The point is without either of us being pedantic, this lad has a lot going in his favour and IMO (brain size of pea disclaimer etc etc) he will be fantastic for us. If he was so shit hot why didn't he get a call up? Beardsley is hardly going to come out an criticise a player is he he could of played awful and Im pretty sure he would of said the same thing or along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Burtons Grandad 0 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) CT I am sure that all of us want Marveaux to be a great success at Newcastle, the same as we would want any player to do well. Thing is only you come out with childish predictions based on very little. In Marveaux's case 1 reserve game, "glimpses of skill" against Scunthorpe ffs and the fact that Dalglish was going to sign him (The same Dalglish that brought Des Hamiliton (£2M), Stephane Guivarch (£3.5M) Brian Pinas, David Terrier and of course the pensioners of Ian Rush and John Barnes). All you are doing is making youself look like a prize Mug. However judging by the number of sensible posters that have already pointed this fact out to you I can only presume you get some perverse enjoyment out being told you are an arsehole. I seem to remember that your kids read this site as well, I bet they are so proud of you mate. Edited August 31, 2011 by Ollie Burtons Grandad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacinofan 0 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Tbf, Liverpool were buying him as back up, hence why they didn't make the contract offer more attractive. Downing was always the top target for the left side. Looks like a decent player, if a bit injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9027 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 The daft twat at work this morning is raving about him. Basically reckons they've got a £10m "top four" player for nowt. Has anyone seen much of him? Looked shite in their televised game I saw a few weeks ago. Pointed out to him that the only thing he has similar to a top four player is Hargreaves injury record. Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.ph...0#ixzz1YaeazRp4 smb-bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonGoodwyn 1 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I love how most of them dismiss anything any 'mag' says instantly, just as a reflex, no matter how little they know about the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12471 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I love how most of them dismiss anything any 'mag' says instantly, just as a reflex, no matter how little they know about the subject. 'Looked wank in the 2 minute cameo he made after coming off an injury so he's obviously shite' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Ruled out until the new year http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/11/17/sylvain-marveaux-ruled-out-until-the-new-year-72703-29795621/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hostile_statue 0 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 It's Sammy time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 What actually happened for him to get injured?I was too far away in the Gallowgate and it just looked like a tangle of legs when the Everton player was trying to stop the counter-attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 You have to wonder if there is more to this given the hoop-la surrounding his medical liverpool. Was he ever fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 What actually happened for him to get injured?I was too far away in the Gallowgate and it just looked like a tangle of legs when the Everton player was trying to stop the counter-attack. Heitinga was caught in posession and Marveaux went on a break. He was never going to catch the ball, so he went to trip Marveaux that was a bit clumsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Cheers Feel sorry for the lad though cos with Obertan being out this was his chance to get a run in the team and make that position his own and now he's back to square one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 You have to wonder if there is more to this given the hoop-la surrounding his medical liverpool. Was he ever fit? Unless I'm much mistaken this is a completely different injury to the one he had at Rennes last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It would appear you are much mistaken. It looks like Liverpool's medical team seem to know what they are doing after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Apart from the fact him coming here had nothing to do with the opinions of Liverpool's medical team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It would appear you are much mistaken. It looks like Liverpool's medical team seem to know what they are doing after all. Not like you to put a negative spin on every matter to do with the club, Sniffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I was under the impression he failed a medical at Liverpool. Depending on who you believe, of course, as there's a bit of the he said, she said. Either way, they dodged a bullet and we got a crock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It would appear you are much mistaken. It looks like Liverpool's medical team seem to know what they are doing after all. Not like you to put a negative spin on every matter to do with the club, Sniffer. Nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26544 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I was under the impression he failed a medical at Liverpool. Depending on who you believe, of course, as there's a bit of the he said, she said. Either way, they dodged a bullet and we got a crock. He said that he didn't fail the medical. They said he didn't fail the medical. Where's the confusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I've only just realised that if you don't have a profile picture you get a silhouette of Stokoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I'm thinking of using it as an actual profile pic under my new moniker: the 'grey man' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I was under the impression he failed a medical at Liverpool. Depending on who you believe, of course, as there's a bit of the he said, she said. Either way, they dodged a bullet and we got a crock. He said that he didn't fail the medical. They said he didn't fail the medical. Where's the confusion? That's not what was reported at the time so who knows the truth? Either way, he had groin issues then, he has major groin issues now which are clearly related injuries. I'd say something went down that wasn't just a contract issue. I bet we don't see him much this season, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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