The Fish 9216 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 who has finished 7th ? You and others said we were going to finish 4th a couple of months ago ? Leazes, I'm pretty sure that nobody has seriously said this. If you have quotes proving me wrong, please provide them, or stop falsely attributing positions to people. It makes trying to have a reasonable discussion with you impossible. you ought to remind those poor deluded souls that think Mike Ashley will ever show ambition for this football club, who keep saying that I say we should be spending 300m quid like Man City to stop falsely attributing positions to people. Happy to, whenever I see someone doing that. But they're not. They're saying that you're obsessed with the way things were and haven't altered your expectations in line with the way football has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 What top players have we sold? Carroll? Who else? Tbf, Im no MA supporter, but for the Carroll situation, any team would have sold that player for that money. For the enrique situation see the Hamman situation. If a player wants to go, you sell them. Other than that, Im struggling what sets us as a selling club for what has already happened. On the flip side, do I think we'd sell Krul, Tiote, Ba et al if a good offer came in? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) who has finished 7th ? You and others said we were going to finish 4th a couple of months ago ? Leazes, I'm pretty sure that nobody has seriously said this. If you have quotes proving me wrong, please provide them, or stop falsely attributing positions to people. It makes trying to have a reasonable discussion with you impossible. you ought to remind those poor deluded souls that think Mike Ashley will ever show ambition for this football club, who keep saying that I say we should be spending 300m quid like Man City to stop falsely attributing positions to people. Happy to, whenever I see someone doing that . But they're not. They're saying that you're obsessed with the way things were and haven't altered your expectations in line with the way football has changed. it's been said/insinuated in this very thread man By the way, if you do some research - as you clearly don't realise either - success in football has ALWAYS been bought by some clubs, and as I stated, we had ManU and 1 bankrolled club to beat and made a decent attempt at it, the only difference is that there are now 2 bankrolled clubs. This has absolutely nothing to do with any reason NUFC have to sell their best players and pocket the cash rather than back their manager. Edited January 13, 2012 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9216 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 who has finished 7th ? You and others said we were going to finish 4th a couple of months ago ? Leazes, I'm pretty sure that nobody has seriously said this. If you have quotes proving me wrong, please provide them, or stop falsely attributing positions to people. It makes trying to have a reasonable discussion with you impossible. you ought to remind those poor deluded souls that think Mike Ashley will ever show ambition for this football club, who keep saying that I say we should be spending 300m quid like Man City to stop falsely attributing positions to people. Happy to, whenever I see someone doing that. But they're not. They're saying that you're obsessed with the way things were and haven't altered your expectations in line with the way football has changed. it's been said/insinuated in this very thread man Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2520 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 You notice he said, 'insinuated', because it actually hasn't been said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) What top players have we sold? Carroll? Who else? Tbf, Im no MA supporter, but for the Carroll situation, any team would have sold that player for that money. For the enrique situation see the Hamman situation. If a player wants to go, you sell them. Other than that, Im struggling what sets us as a selling club for what has already happened. On the flip side, do I think we'd sell Krul, Tiote, Ba et al if a good offer came in? Yes. but will the money be pocketed again ? Where is the cash from MIlner, Bassong, Given, to name a few others....... You answer your own question by the way when you say we would sell Krul, Tiote and Ba. Why would they ? Why should they ? Should this decision not be left to the manager, who would then allocate the complete fee in the way he wants ? For the benefit of certain other people, THIS is how Spurs etc have operated in recent years, including telling Chelsea to fuck off when they asked about Modric, and also built on him by signing Parker [whatever we think of him it was the manager being allowed to manage] since Alan Sugar stopped running them in a "self sufficient" fashion ie when we trounced them year after year because we had real football people running the show. Edited January 13, 2012 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 You notice he said, 'insinuated', because it actually hasn't been said. as Stevie said, you're a shite poster. Either say something or pipe down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2520 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 As opposed to typing alot and saying nothing like you two bellends. I'm quite happy with my contribution thanks very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 As opposed to typing alot and saying nothing like you two bellends. I'm quite happy with my contribution thanks very much. you're another grey man. What I post is factual, knowledgeable and - as has been the case for a number of years - turn out to be exactly what happens. It's piss easy man, the direction the club is taking is as obvious as night becomes day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35462 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Grey Man vs. Mad Man. Winner takes all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2520 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Fuck up with your 'grey man' bullshit. I've stated my opinion on this topic numerous times. Its been done. What you post I would regard as opinion, if I'm being kind, drivel, if I'm being honest. You openly stated just before that you'd be happy if the club finished in a EL position consistantly only if they were aiming for more. But you also have admitted that pushing for CL football is beyond us. Idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Fuck up with your 'grey man' bullshit. I've stated my opinion on this topic numerous times. Its been done. What you post I would regard as opinion, if I'm being kind, drivel, if I'm being honest. You openly stated just before that you'd be happy if the club finished in a EL position consistantly only if they were aiming for more. But you also have admitted that pushing for CL football is beyond us. Idiocy. the clubs is setup and has the transfer policy of a selling club, not an ambitious big club. That is a fact, it may not be obvious yet to people who are either blind or know nothing, but it will become so, in time. For those who still need more time to see, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 What I don't get is that Leazes is entitled to his opinion and people are entitled to disagree with him. But neither are going to change the other's opinion so why bother arguing over the same points again and again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4003 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 What top players have we sold? Carroll? Who else? Tbf, Im no MA supporter, but for the Carroll situation, any team would have sold that player for that money. For the enrique situation see the Hamman situation. If a player wants to go, you sell them. Other than that, Im struggling what sets us as a selling club for what has already happened. On the flip side, do I think we'd sell Krul, Tiote, Ba et al if a good offer came in? Yes. but will the money be pocketed again ? Where is the cash from MIlner, Bassong, Given, to name a few others....... You answer your own question by the way when you say we would sell Krul, Tiote and Ba. Why would they ? Why should they ? Should this decision not be left to the manager, who would then allocate the complete fee in the way he wants ? For the benefit of certain other people, THIS is how Spurs etc have operated in recent years, including telling Chelsea to fuck off when they asked about Modric, and also built on him by signing Parker [whatever we think of him it was the manager being allowed to manage] since Alan Sugar stopped running them in a "self sufficient" fashion ie when we trounced them year after year because we had real football people running the show. These "real football people" didn't leave the club in a very good state of affairs on or off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2520 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I would hope nobody here is so daft as to think they can actually reason with this guy to the point that he admits he's wrong on any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9216 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 What I don't get is that Leazes is entitled to his opinion and people are entitled to disagree with him. But neither are going to change the other's opinion so why bother arguing over the same points again and again? Don't know about anyone else, but it's less about what he's saying and more about the way he positions himself. he attributes positions to people, then doesn't back it up He accuses people of pigeon holing him but can't show evidence he refuses to answer a question directly he demands people answer his questions, yet ignores the answers when they come he repeats his position about this subject in every thread on the Newcastle forum, regardless of it's relevancy. Like I said, I've no problem with people having different opinions, but I take issue with his style of posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 7071 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 What I don't get is that Leazes is entitled to his opinion and people are entitled to disagree with him. But neither are going to change the other's opinion so why bother arguing over the same points again and again? T'is true, but the problem is Leazes takes someone's opinion, completely disregards it, and starts stating their opinion is what he says it is, usually something completely different to the originally stated opinion. Hard for folks not to bite at that. Also it's a bit of a game, first person to get Leazes to answer a question, wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2520 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 the clubs is setup and has the transfer policy of a selling club, not an ambitious big club. That is a fact, it may not be obvious yet to people who are either blind or know nothing, but it will become so, in time. For those who still need more time to see, that is. You are muddled. That is your opinion. Your opinion can be supported by facts but it is not a fact in its own right. Also, disregarding all that. Can I assume that from your point of view we are currently competing at the level you deem acceptable but you are disregarding it as acceptable because its not being done the way you want it to be done? What you want is for us to compete for EL qualification while spending lost of money on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsweeney 0 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 7071 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 the clubs is setup and has the transfer policy of a selling club, not an ambitious big club. That is a fact, it may not be obvious yet to people who are either blind or know nothing, but it will become so, in time. For those who still need more time to see, that is. You are muddled. That is your opinion. Your opinion can be supported by facts but it is not a fact in its own right. Also, disregarding all that. Can I assume that from your point of view we are currently competing at the level you deem acceptable but you are disregarding it as acceptable because its not being done the way you want it to be done? What you want is for us to compete for EL qualification while spending lost of money on players. I think, he doesn't want us to sign good free players like Ba, but he'd rather we spent a fortune of someone's money (a banks money even) on expensive shite like Luque, Boumsong and Owen (as examples), relative league position is irrelevant, we just need to spend money as that's all that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Comparing Jack Walker to Sheik Mansoor, Haha, priceless. at the time, bonny lad, at the time. You're showing your ignorance. Jack Walker bought the title, as you don't appear to know this. Of course I know but was hardly on the scale of City. We finished 6th that season, so 7th this year won't be too bad don't you think?? read the post properly man. I did, it reads like 95% of all your posts. as I have said to you, your posts are so varied, interesting and knowledgeable deluded, its unreal Deluded?? Finishing 7th? admitting players will get sold? Saying we can't compete financially with some clubs? Which one of these, enlighten me o wise one who has finished 7th ? You and others said we were going to finish 4th a couple of months ago ? When did I say that? The seasons not over yet but I think we are capable of finishing 7th, which would be progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2520 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Answer the question. ugh.. opportunity lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9216 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) the clubs is setup and has the transfer policy of a selling club, not an ambitious big club. That is a fact, it may not be obvious yet to people who are either blind or know nothing, but it will become so, in time. For those who still need more time to see, that is. You are muddled. That is your opinion. Your opinion can be supported by facts but it is not a fact in its own right. Also, disregarding all that. Can I assume that from your point of view we are currently competing at the level you deem acceptable but you are disregarding it as acceptable because its not being done the way you want it to be done? What you want is for us to compete for EL qualification while spending lost of money on players. I think, he doesn't want us to sign good free players like Ba, but he'd rather we spent a fortune of someone's money (a banks money even) on expensive shite like Luque, Boumsong and Owen (as examples), relative league position is irrelevant, we just need to spend money as that's all that counts. To be fair, I think he'd rather we did both. Edit Sorry, I mean that he'd rather we found bargains and spend £10m on a player who seems worth it. Edited January 13, 2012 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35462 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 "You and others said" is the new "some people". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9216 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 "You and others said" is the new "some people". So they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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