Monkeys Fist 38982 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 No. I blame the himmigriants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17930 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) Davis is a fucking idiot, he seems to be of the opinion we are a great trading nation and every other nation on earth is desperate to buy our goods and have access to our small market. If you were a foreign exporter, where would you prioritise access to, a nation off 60 million, or a trading bloc of 500 million? And what the fuck do we make that nobody else can and other nations are so desperate to get their hands on? Unlike countries like the US, Canada, and Australia, what natural resources does our tiny island really have? Edited July 14, 2016 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38982 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Are we still rated as producers of weaponry and inventive death, or are we shit at that now, as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Davis is a fucking idiot, he seems to be of the opinion we are a great trading nation and every other nation on earth is desperate to buy our goods and have access to our small market. If you were a foreign exporter, where would you prioritise access to, a nation off 60 million, or a trading bloc of 500 million? And what the fuck do we make that nobody else can and other nations are so desperate to get their hands on? Unlike countries like the US, Canada, and Australia, what natural resources does our tiny island really have? Worlds 9th biggest exporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9086 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Will that still be the case if Nissan (and their ilk) move production to an EU Country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Fish 3 weeks behind the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17930 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Worlds 9th biggest exporter. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9086 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Fish 3 weeks behind the debate. I don't often post in this thread, but when I do I make sure it's impertinent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Davis is a fucking idiot, he seems to be of the opinion we are a great trading nation and every other nation on earth is desperate to buy our goods and have access to our small market. If you were a foreign exporter, where would you prioritise access to, a nation off 60 million, or a trading bloc of 500 million? And what the fuck do we make that nobody else can and other nations are so desperate to get their hands on? Unlike countries like the US, Canada, and Australia, what natural resources does our tiny island really have? I gather our educational standards are well thought of, and we export a lot of material in that respect. Probably why risking academic research isnt a great idea actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35117 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 We export tea bags and biscuits to ex pats too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 And? you asked what we export. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3989 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Must have missed all those gold mines here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17930 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 you asked what we export. It was a rhetorical question. The point is, we export nothing that can't be made elsewhere. Nissan exports 70% of its cars to the EU. Petrol exports are worth less, are in decline, and sold in dollars. We have few other raw materials to export. We're not a strong exporting country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35117 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 If Theresa May had just read out the words to Rule Britannia yesterday, CT would have posted them as facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26670 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Worlds 9th biggest exporter. That £2.99TN GDP would only be £2.54TN at today's exchange rate. A minor difference obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) See the much denied EU army has peaked out from the Germans. New jobs for the poles following Brexit "As a practical step, Ms von der Leyen’s paper suggests that citizens of other EU countries could in future join the German army, which has struggled to find enough recruits since conscription ended five years ago". Edited July 14, 2016 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I'm pretty sure that Boris only pretends to be lackadaisical and clumsy. Has his career advancement got the biggest boost from the Brexit fallout of the lot of them? I've never bought into him putting on an act. Massive privelige mixed with complete confidence in your own ability despite the reality sees many idiots promoted to positions of power they're happy to blunder their way through. But when you see this it makes you wonder about the devious machinations he must have made if it was a long game. That said, he looked dumbfounded to have got it in his interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 What is everyone so afraid of an EU army for, exactly? How is that any different to a series of smaller armies who would, if Europe was ever invaded, fight collectively against the opposing force? Other than that the latter model would be considerably less efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Has his career advancement got the biggest boost from the Brexit fallout of the lot of them? I've never bought into him putting on an act. Massive privelige mixed with complete confidence in your own ability despite the reality sees many idiots promoted to positions of power they're happy to blunder their way through. But when you see this it makes you wonder about the devious machinations he must have made if it was a long game. That said, he looked dumbfounded to have got it in his interview. I'm as surprised as anyone by this but considering he was the vote leave leader of 17 odd million, including a lot of disgruntled labour and UKIP voters, maybe it's with one eye in the next GE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 What is everyone so afraid of an EU army for, exactly? How is that any different to a series of smaller armies who would, if Europe was ever invaded, fight collectively against the opposing force? Other than that the latter model would be considerably less efficient. The Germans and big army's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 That isn't an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17930 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) What is everyone so afraid of an EU army for, exactly? How is that any different to a series of smaller armies who would, if Europe was ever invaded, fight collectively against the opposing force? Other than that the latter model would be considerably less efficient.Well most people would be opposed to this kind of military federalism on principle, including me. It would also be a threat to NATO at worst and an extra layer of redundancy at best. In the EU, the UK would have vetoed this to death. Outside the EU, we're powerless. Great. Edited July 14, 2016 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I don't see the issue. I get why people are antsy given Europe's imperial past but at the end of the day, a combined force would be more effective if ever needed than a multitude of separate forces. Moreover, it'd counter balance US influence globally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17930 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I don't see the issue. I get why people are antsy given Europe's imperial past but at the end of the day, a combined force would be more effective if ever needed than a multitude of separate forces. Moreover, it'd counter balance US influence globally. It's not much of an issue for me but I can see the argument that it reduces our military autonomy and could drag us in to conflicts we'd be best avoiding. But ateotd we have NATO so I don't see the need personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14117 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Yeah but Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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