ewerk 26441 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Brino tits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 And you guys thought chemweps was bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30452 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 It was 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just a general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17825 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 On 12/04/2018 at 11:41, Renton said: So, there is a rumour on the wind that Nissan Sunderland is going to be announced as a "planned closure" after 2022 shortly. I have no idea as to the source or veracity of this rumour. In a way I would hope it's true as it may focus government minds to stay in the SM and CU and the closure will therefore be prevented. On the other hand if May sticks with her red lines it would be simply catastrophic for the north east, as demonstrated by the government's own economic analysis. There's a very gloomy article on the BBC today about the challenges of Brexit to the automotive industry as it happens, none of it is good. There is simply no positive upshot. But I'd like to ask @Christmas Tree if hypothetically this happens if he will admit he was wrong to back Brexit? And furthermore, even if it doesn't happen, why he felt the risk, which he acknowledged was real at the time, was warranted? Yeah, you'll say you've said it all before, but you really haven't. Now I know you're an intellectual heavyweight, I think you owe it to clarify to us other than we're going to get a "cracking deal". Nissan to cut hundreds of jobs at Sunderland. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/business/business-news/nissan-cut-jobs-sunderland-due-14555976 Now interestingly the reason given is the fall in demand for diesel, not Brexit. I'm suspicious, but prepared to accept this. However, it seems obvious to me that Brexit exposes this plant to particular risks. I'd say you'd have to be an idiot to vote for Brexit if you were a service provider to that community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Davis due before the exiting the eu committee shortly. As I’m off and loaded with cold I might as well watch and see what fuck ups he makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 He really endeared himself to him with that opening. Basically, ‘I’m only here for an hour and a half because I’ve got shit to do’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30452 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 He's been doing shit since he took up the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Alex said: He's been doing shit since he took up the post Promoted to a position of incompetence is a common feature of all organisations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Christmas Tree said: Davis due before the exiting the eu committee shortly. As I’m off and loaded with cold I might as well watch and see what fuck ups he makes. I've been a supporter of David Davis since the 2005 leadership contest but he's underachieving big time under May's government and I put it down to mostly Theresa May's government being pretty shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: I've been a supporter of David Davis since the 2005 leadership contest but he's underachieving big time under May's government and I put it down to mostly Theresa May's government being pretty shite. Have to confess I've only had him on my radar really since Brexit. What about him makes you think (or made you think) that he was competent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: I've been a supporter of David Davis since the 2005 leadership contest I do hope you own the corresponding merch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30452 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: I've been a supporter of David Davis since the 2005 leadership contest but he's underachieving big time under May's government and I put it down to mostly Theresa May's government being pretty shite. Does it not get exhausting being so controversial all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Have to confess I've only had him on my radar really since Brexit. What about him makes you think (or made you think) that he was competent? He appeared to be a principled, disciplined individual with a military background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Meenzer said: I do hope you own the corresponding merch. The cringe is strong with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: He appeared to be a principled, disciplined individual with a military background. And now? Never really been clear on what having a 'military background' gives to a politician I have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17825 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: I've been a supporter of David Davis since the 2005 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I prefer politicians to have experience outside of politics, some understanding of the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, SpaceCadet said: I prefer politicians to have experience outside of politics, some understanding of the real world. Well, me too. But ideally they should be in positions that reflect their background. A military guy in Defence, sure. Negotiating Brexit? You'd think a lawyer would be better for that... Starmer would have been ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Well, me too. But ideally they should be in positions that reflect their background. A military guy in Defence, sure. Negotiating Brexit? You'd think a lawyer would be better for that... Starmer would have been ideal. I agree that a law background would be far more ideal. But seeing as though the Conservatives were elected by an embarrassingly small margin I would go with Dominic Raab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30452 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 He's not very intelligent, that's his main problem. He had absolutely no vision regarding the fallout of the leave vote he campaigned for and has no idea how to rectify the variety of problems that have arisen as a result. As payback May put him in the post which would expose this to the greatest degree. If it wasn't so important it would be poetic justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: I agree that a law background would be far more ideal. But seeing as though the Conservatives were elected by an embarrassingly small margin I would go with Dominic Raab. Without condoning the whole Brexit operation, I agree that Raab would have been a better choice. Presumably he was a Remainer though, and May seemed to put Brexiters into high profile positions as a shield against being remembered as the PM who oversaw whatever horrors will follow (break up of the Union, economic regression, etc). Edited April 25, 2018 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3206 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I am slightly suspicious of David Davis 21 SAS claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 You can't blame me on May. I was team Fox until the membership were usurped and May was coronated thanks to Leadsom walking blindly into a trap despite it being obvious the media were after her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30452 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 That and the complete lack of any influence on the leadership election 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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