Rayvin 4964 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Being seen as anti-Corbyn more important than opposing genocide. Yes this includes "our" MP. Shameful but consistent with what we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 "In fact, there is substantial evidence emerging that the Saudis and their “coalition” allies – and, I suppose, those horrid British “advisers” – are deliberately targeting Yemen’s tiny agricultural sector in a campaign which, if successful, would lead a post-war Yemeni nation not just into starvation but total reliance on food imports for survival. Much of this would no doubt come from the Gulf states which are currently bombing the poor country to bits." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-s-bombing-of-yemeni-farmland-is-a-disgraceful-breach-of-the-geneva-conventions-a7376576.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 I mean, does this not say everything you need to know about certain sections of the PLP? I looked down the list of MPs who abstained and in fairness it's not all the usual candidates; there are some on there of course - Angela Eagle being one - but Cooper, Benn and Smith are all missing, which I assume means they voted correctly. Here's the link to the list in case anyone's interested about their own MP's stance: http://evolvepolitics.com/heres-a-list-of-labour-mps-who-abstained-on-a-bill-to-withdraw-support-from-saudi-arabias-murderous-war-in-yemen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 If I have to come back and take power shit is going to get real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 I'd fucking welcome it mate, anything to break the grasp of the Neoliberal warmongers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 The west's alliance with the Saudis is one of the great hypocrisies. I'll be surprised if it remains intact once the oil runs dry. Absolute savages tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Andy Burnham is in there as well, which surprises me... I thought he was alright? Is there actually any 'good' reason for not supporting this motion? Am I just getting carried away with my naive hyper-leftism? Surely these MPs haven't just decided to score points domestically versus Corbyn over the lives of fellow human beings elsewhere in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3981 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Andy Burnham is in there as well, which surprises me... I thought he was alright? Is there actually any 'good' reason for not supporting this motion? Am I just getting carried away with my naive hyper-leftism? Surely these MPs haven't just decided to score points domestically versus Corbyn over the lives of fellow human beings elsewhere in the world? At a stretch some might have constituencies which have BAE jobs concerns - as if there aren't plenty other cunts to sell arms to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34537 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Bridget the abstainer. What is the fucking point in going into politics if you're gonna do shit like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) At a stretch some might have constituencies which have BAE jobs concerns - as if there aren't plenty other cunts to sell arms to. That's nowhere close to being a good reason, but on a cold, rational and entirely post-Brexit based outlook, I can just about see it. Edited October 29, 2016 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Bridget the abstainer. What is the fucking point in going into politics if you're gonna do shit like that? Yeah I noticed her. Wasn't gonna mention it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Andy Burnham is in there as well, which surprises me... I thought he was alright? Is there actually any 'good' reason for not supporting this motion? Am I just getting carried away with my naive hyper-leftism? Surely these MPs haven't just decided to score points domestically versus Corbyn over the lives of fellow human beings elsewhere in the world? Andy Burnham tweeted the other day that he didn't abstain, he just couldn't be in parliament that day for family reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Don't they have pairing solutions for that? I don't want to sound unsympathetic to the private lives of MPs, but people will die in our name because of this abstaining... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34537 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 School run trumps all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Did anyone see Greg Clarke on Andrew Marr this morning? I missed it but it sounds like he was a lot more forthcoming than he was the other night on QT. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/30/greg-clark-brexit-negotiations-andrew-marr-show-nissan-auto-industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34537 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Come on Parky, what's the story with this growing Russian threat to the UK? Does Renton need to be spending a bit more time peering out from under his dinner table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 "Heseltine: I did not kill my mother's Alsatian" The Day Today looking more and more like the normal news every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3206 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Just watched the news where Corbyn ran away from a journalist asking what he would think of a snap election. He then hid from the media saying he was being harassed. I've always stuck up for him but that's the last straw. He is completely incapable of sensing when to strike at PMQ's and even if he could, wouldn't be able to think on his feet to do so. The Labour Party needs a strong contender to challenge him. Unfortunately I can't think of one who isn't a narcissistic prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) Come on Parky, what's the story with this growing Russian threat to the UK? Does Renton need to be spending a bit more time peering out from under his dinner table? https://www.ft.com/content/df9c889a-18c6-11e4-80da-00144feabdc0 Edited November 6, 2016 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17812 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Pay walled. Howay, I'm def con behind sofa here, do I need to go def con under table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 And yet in 2016 was voted the eight best airport in the world. Just took me the best part of two hours to leave terminal 2. At one point before clearing security we were stuck behind a fire door which had been closed, a bottleneck of cattle stranded until some grumpy bitch finally released us. Then massive queues to clear passport control followed by a 30 minute wait for bags. Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26421 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 95% of the time I was flying domestic. Maybe that's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26421 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 So the BBC have had Marie Le Pen on ON REMEMBRANCE SUNDAY! I for one shall not be paying for my TV license in protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30440 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I see the Electoral Calculus site's amalgamation of polls for the last month or so has the Tories looking at a whacking 130 seat majority were an election to be called now. Part of me thinks it would be better to get it out of the way rather than have a similar or worse result in a few years time. So much for the establishment getting kicked up the arse post-Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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