Dr Gloom 20173 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, adios said: Final answer? Mohammed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Happy Face 29 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 3 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said: BREAKING: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Bahrain cut all ties with Qatar. Qatari citizens have 14 days to leave counties. Saudis shut down sea, air, & land crossings. FIFA statement: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20173 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 You have to be a proper cuntish if the Saudis are accusing you of harbouring terrorists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14142 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Mind, on second reading that's a bit harsh. "All Qataris out of our country now! We've closed all the borders though." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3284 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 TBH I'm with @ewerk on this, sidearms for the police is a natural progression and works well in hundreds of countries. I lived in Germany for a few years and it definitely works there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3284 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: You have to be a proper cuntish if the Saudis are accusing you of harbouring terrorists Or they are trying to deflect blame and have chosen the smallest neighbour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4970 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: There'd be 120k extra guns in the country immediately by arming all of our officers. How long 'til one 'falls into the wrong hands'? Ok so you're actually (I think) talking at crossed purposes. ewerk's contention was that gun access is severely restricted and that the police would have an immediate advantage. You're agreeing that it is severely restricted, but that giving officers guns increases the risk of terrorists getting hold of them. Presumably you think the risk of that happening is higher, even if less likely, (measured in potential lives lost) than if the police can't quickly incapacitate a maniac with a knife. I mean, we can't say for sure but I can see the logic there. Edited June 5, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Ok so you're actually (I think) talking at crossed purposes. ewerk's contention was that gun access is severely restricted and that the police would have an immediate advantage. You're agreeing that it is severely restricted, but that giving officers guns increases the risk of terrorists getting hold of them. Presumably you think the risk of that happening is higher, even if less likely, (measured in potential lives lost) than if the police can't quickly incapacitate a maniac with a knife. I mean, we can't say for sure but I can see the logic there. My argument is more that it'd be completely pointless in a terrorist situation. The maniac with a knife scenario would manifest itself in a different way because terrorists would adapt. Whether that means trying to get a gun, or using a bigger vehicle to drive into crowds or whatever. Terrorists have attacked countries that arm their police and fatalities have been just as high or higher than the attacks here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Happy Face said: FIFA statement: J69 booking up to go there with his lass and 'the bairn' as we speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4970 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, TheGingerQuiff said: My argument is more that it'd be completely pointless in a terrorist situation. The maniac with a knife scenario would manifest itself in a different way because terrorists would adapt. Whether that means trying to get a gun, or using a bigger vehicle to drive into crowds or whatever. Terrorists have attacked countries that arm their police and fatalities have been just as high or higher than the attacks here. Fair point. Well, I can see both sides of this so I guess I'll head back over to the GE thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14142 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 And this is how we beat ISIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2795 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Sky: "Large concrete barriers have been installed overnight at Waterloo, Lambeth, and Westminster bridges." "It has been reported that London's municipal governing body, City of London Corporation (COLC), ruled out installing anti-terror bollards in the London Bridge area just 24 hours before the attack." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Another pointless waste of time unless you put them everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4970 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Just now, TheGingerQuiff said: Another pointless waste of time unless you put them everywhere Cressida Dick shares your opinion on armed offices incidentally, so it doesn't look like they're coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Cressida Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4970 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Cressida Dick Yeah but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Ironcially a lesbian too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Must be the blue vein of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2795 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 An American bystander was struck in the head, by a stray bullet fired by police, as he stood near a window inside the Wheatsheaf pub. Fabio Lamas, who works at the pub. "I got people to start evacuating inside from our little garden that we have ... and got people to come into the bar and to go into toilets, hide under tables and hide in our cellar where we keep all our stock," the 20-year-old recalled. "Then I heard shooting and I saw an American guy get shot in the head." "He was bleeding through his eye. I went to get the first-aid kit and I started speaking to his friends and to try and calm them down." http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/london-bridge-attack/london-bridge-attack-american-hit-head-police-bullet-witness-says-n768186 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Well there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9240 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 If we learned anything from Batman it's "escalation". Jim Gordon: What about escalation? Batman: Escalation? Jim Gordon: We start carrying semi-automatics, they buy automatics. We start wearing Kevlar, they buy armor piercing rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30810 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Kay Burley gutted at not getting the 'right' answers there. What a horrible fucking cunt she is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4970 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Muslim Council of Britain encouraging imams not to give the Islamic equivalent of 'last rites' to the attackers. Fair play to them, they're taking a very firm stance on this. Alongside our friends and neighbours, we mourn this attack on our home, society and people and feel pain for the suffering of the victims and their families. We pray to God that the perpetrators be judged in accordance with the gravity of their crimes in the hereafter. Their acts and wilful dismissal of our religious principles alienates them from any association with our community for whom the inviolability of every human life is the founding principle. Consequently, and in light of other such ethical principles which are quintessential to Islam, we will not perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer for the perpetrators and we also urge fellow imams and religious authorities to withdraw such a privilege. This is because such indefensible actions are completely at odds with the lofty teachings of Islam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9240 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 "Why won't the muslamics speak out against these people?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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