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The 32 inch waist 

He's a cock but it was a nice touch playing him because he's been a great player for them.

I think Brighton will go down. They had a lot of luck with refs and late goals this season. That won't happen in the prem.

That'll be a shame. Not that he goes, but that he'll likely sully the work he did by failing to evolve with the rest of the league. End of the day his obstinacy has cost them titles. If, instead of spunking tens of millions of lightweight attacking midfielders, sign a midfield destroyer like Kante, a big lump up front like Romelu Lukaku and a dominant centre half. I know that looks like I'm over-simplifying it, but Arsenal have the funds, the attractiveness and the scouting network to get it done, surely?

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I fully agree with you, but for whatever reason Wenger is wedded to his philosophy. I kind of admire that in a sense - sentimentality over pragmatism - but the chances of him pulling it off were always going to be low.

 

What I've never understood about it is that it's not like he's never had 'pragmatic' sides before. He won the league while playing quite different football to what he seems to want to do now.

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People go on about Wenger and his philosophy but the only times he's had genuine success at Arsenal (relative to the club size, it's history and potential etc.) is when he's been pragmatic enough to have the likes of Petit, Vieira and Gilberto in the middle, had an extremely solid back 4/5 and included grafters like Ljungberg and Parlour. His current 'philosophy' set against that is basically a regression.

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They've been midtable makeweights for like a decade haven't they? Why the sudden upturn?

They've been bottom half since they were promoted in 2012. Wagner is a student of Klopp and they'v bought a couple of German players who're used to that focussed energy pressing game (gegenpressing), they've also picked upa couple of domestic players who've got the energy levels to play it. Nakhi Wells is a decent striker at this level and I like van La Parra (even though he's apparently the halfbrother of a certain gutless Dutch midfielder who fucked off to Liverpool).

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Just listened to you say exactly that, bit odd actually to read and hear it at the same time.

 

Also, flags aren't funny  :glare:

 

:lol: 

 

Yeah, I think/hope Fergus was just being contrary.

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