Dr Gloom 20056 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) @Rayvin They already know they're not winning any votes. Edited May 18, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39096 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said: I've only read snippets so far but the headlines are suggesting the Tories are : -taking free school dinners off kids -improving mental health services with 0% raise in funding -if your house is worth more than £100k you pay 100% of your nursing care costs! (£1000+ pm) -cutting the winter fuel allowance -bringing back fox hunting -reducing pensions and raising the state pension age, again -bringing back grammar schools -fiddling foreign aid -cancel the Leveson enquiry Yet they are walking the election Mental isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20056 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 no mention on the Tories' battle bus of the party name. I thought we were electing a party to govern, rather than a president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14133 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 The Labour posters they're putting up around here are all "Re-elect Vicky Foxcroft" with any mention of Labour banished to a tiny mention in the corner. Seems to be the year for it. Though in this case it's presumably because they know people see her as a good local MP but think any association with Corbyn would be toxic in a 70% remain area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20056 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Update from my election road trip up in Scotland: no body is talking abut Labour up there, at all. We visited the Scottish Borders, where it's pretty much a straight fight between the SNP and the Tories. The big issue on the door step is a second referendum, not Brexit. And people who have never voted Tory are thinking of doing so just to keep the SNP out, because they want to stop Sturgeon's push for Indy ref 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20056 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, Meenzer said: The Labour posters they're putting up around here are all "Re-elect Vicky Foxcroft" with any mention of Labour banished to a tiny mention in the corner. Seems to be the year for it. Though in this case it's presumably because they know people see her as a good local MP but think any association with Corbyn would be toxic in a 70% remain area. Im pretty sure it was a unanimous decision in the meeting of labour strategists not to plaster "Vote Jeremy" on the side of their battle bus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18005 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, Meenzer said: The Labour posters they're putting up around here are all "Re-elect Vicky Foxcroft" with any mention of Labour banished to a tiny mention in the corner. Seems to be the year for it. Though in this case it's presumably because they know people see her as a good local MP but think any association with Corbyn would be toxic in a 70% remain area. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I read Blair was only polling 35% when he won a majority the second time. Why are Labour's odds so huge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30727 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: I read Blair was only polling 35% when he won a majority the second time. Why are Labour's odds so huge? Pretty sure that's incorrect. He had a big lead in the polls iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: Update from my election road trip up in Scotland: no body is talking abut Labour up there, at all. We visited the Scottish Borders, where it's pretty much a straight fight between the SNP and the Tories. The big issue on the door step is a second referendum, not Brexit. And people who have never voted Tory are thinking of doing so just to keep the SNP out, because they want to stop Sturgeon's push for Indy ref 2. Expected though, Scotland is a lost cause as far as Labour are concerned. The Scots have understandably had it with our shit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9140 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 17 hours ago, Meenzer said: Cornflakes are a perfectly acceptable option for both meals tbh Spoken like a true "Work from home" gent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14847 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Update from my election road trip up in Scotland: no body is talking abut Labour up there, at all. We visited the Scottish Borders, where it's pretty much a straight fight between the SNP and the Tories. The big issue on the door step is a second referendum, not Brexit. And people who have never voted Tory are thinking of doing so just to keep the SNP out, because they want to stop Sturgeon's push for Indy ref 2. Did you speak to Calum Ker, whose uncle taught me metalwork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20056 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 i did as it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20056 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 he's up against a a tory called john lamont, who is attempting to win at the 4th attempt. i was struck by how many people were saying they'd vote for him, lamont that is. i never figured the tories would have much of a chance north of the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14133 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Big Mother is watching you (and your button mushroom porn search history) http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/theresa-may-internet-conservatives-government-a7744176.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6321 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Alex said: Pretty sure that's incorrect. He had a big lead in the polls iirc Definitely incorrect.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_general_election,_2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I might have meant 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14847 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: he's up against a a tory called john lamont, who is attempting to win at the 4th attempt. i was struck by how many people were saying they'd vote for him, lamont that is. i never figured the tories would have much of a chance north of the border. The area was lib dem for decades, but the daft fuckers were manipulated by salmon the same way Farage got at large swathes of English voters : " your life's shit because of the English/ immigrants, vote for me for a better life!!", whether their lives were crap or not, and despite the borders voting "no" in the Indy ref. Lamonts only chance is due to nobody wanting another Indy ref, although he was only within 200 votes or so of Ker in the last GE. That's why the tories are gaining traction in various parts of Scotland, and that's why Sturgeons glory days may well be over. Ker's ok, he does a lot on rural broadband and is snp spokesman on rural affairs, which means he's the farmers place man to keep EU CAP grants coming in after Brexit, which is obviously a tricky gig.. Edited May 19, 2017 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 10105 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4003 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Labour don't help themselves. Shadow defence sec says Tridents safe under labour, shadow home sec says it could be scrapped within months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26748 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Is that what she said though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4003 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, ewerk said: Is that what she said though? Not exact words, but yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26748 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Except it's not even close to what she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4003 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 43 minutes ago, ewerk said: Except it's not even close to what she said. Asked if she could guarantee Trident renewal would remain Labour policy following a defence review, she said: “Well no, of course not, if you are going to have a review, you have to have a review.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Some leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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