ewerk 26793 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I'm not that much older than you and if you are a Charnley lookalike I look younger than you too. Alright, Stevie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Andy Street elected West Midlands Mayor, Labour losing it. Labour is falling apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 What happens in 15 years when there are literally no jobs? It could be positively Dickensian for the vast majority. Automation of jobs should go hand in hand with increased taxation (income and business), reduced working hours (3 day week) and rapid increases in both welfare and minimum wages. As it is, posit one extra bank holiday and a moderate increase to the living wage/taxes and you're demonised as a fringe left lunatic. Only the barbers will survive.. they can't automate haircuts, can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20140 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 living wage and we all live in a tech uopia, until the robots revolt, take over the world and plug us into the matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 The Proles voting for the Inner Party, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 living wage and we all live in a tech uopia, until the robots revolt, take over the world and plug us into the matrix. Not sure that fixes it. Aspiration being part of the human experience, what would we all do with ourselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30761 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 VR porn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 VR porn It would be like that Stallone film, was it Demolition man? Where he thought he was going to get his end away but she gives him a VR headset, he was fuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Robots are job creators he reckons Hate ringing my own shopping through. Bread buns are a mare at Morrison's. Always need 10 goes. They even make you do it at the pound shop these days. Bloke was loving the extra hours he was getting to show the biddies how it works. Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Out of pure interest, how many working class Tories are on here? Apart from CT obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Automation of jobs should go hand in hand with increased taxation (income and business), reduced working hours (3 day week) and rapid increases in both welfare and minimum wages. As it is, posit one extra bank holiday and a moderate increase to the living wage/taxes and you're demonised as a fringe left lunatic. Only the barbers will survive.. they can't automate haircuts, can they? I assume the last thing to go will be art. There'll be some rabble of luddites who won't appreciate the next great novel being written by a fucking machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 It would be like that Stallone film, was it Demolition man? Where he thought he was going to get his end away but she gives him a VR headset, he was fuming. GREAT scene in a GREAT film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Out of pure interest, how many working class Tories are on here? Apart from CT obviously. Apparently about to be quite a few. Be interesting to see after the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4002 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 It's sad to say, but I think a lot of anti-immigration traditional labour voters will vote for May stupidly thinking any "deal" she gets will include a reduction in migrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18038 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Apparently about to be quite a few. Be interesting to see after the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18038 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 It's sad to say, but I think a lot of anti-immigration traditional labour voters will vote for May stupidly thinking any "deal" she gets will include a reduction in migrants. No. The Labour collapse is down to Corbyn. If this isn't obvious by now I give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4263 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Despite UKIP being battered my home consituency have still managed to elect one to the council. At least we decided not to do a mayoral vote (we had a referendum) though, can't trust the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) No. The Labour collapse is down to Corbyn. If this isn't obvious by now I give up. So why is half the West suffering from the same problem? Is Corbyn responsible for Trump and Le Pen too? Edited May 5, 2017 by adios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4002 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 No. The Labour collapse is down to Corbyn. If this isn't obvious by now I give up.Yes, but part of that problem is because he and they are seen as so pro-immigration which is unpopular in traditional areas. If you think a new leader will instantly fix that you're dreaming. There was a video the other day of Farron talking to a bloke who was a lifelong labour voter who was voting tory simply to support a hard Brexit. No mention of leaders at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18038 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 So why is half the West suffering from the same problem? Is Corbyn responsible for Trump and Le Pen too? Pointless trying to extrapolate to different countries. Both those mentioned are on an anti-establishment ticket anyway, aren't they? How does that explain May cleaning up here? Since Corbyn was elected by the 3 quid mob, Labour have collapsed. This collapse was predicted by myself, several others on here, and millions others. It's pretty simple what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18038 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) Yes, but part of that problem is because he and they are seen as so pro-immigration which is unpopular in traditional areas. If you think a new leader will instantly fix that you're dreaming. There was a video the other day of Farron talking to a bloke who was a lifelong labour voter who was voting tory simply to support a hard Brexit. No mention of leaders at all. No doubt his contradictory immigration views are a turn off, but the main problem is his credibility that of the shadow cabinet. Can you honestly imagine him as PM, really? The fact that this happening against a feeble Tory government is even more damning. BTW, I saw data today suggesting 70% of previous labour voters surveyed last week want to remain in the EU. The inverse is true of Tory voters. Doesn't support your theory. Edited May 5, 2017 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Pointless trying to extrapolate to different countries. Both those mentioned are on an anti-establishment ticket anyway, aren't they? How does that explain May cleaning up here? Since Corbyn was elected by the 3 quid mob, Labour have collapsed. This collapse was predicted by myself, several others on here, and millions others. It's pretty simple what the problem is. It's about simple solutions to complex problems, people are scared and angry. The UK doesn't have a viable anti-establishment party, does it? UKIP were toast once the Tories went for a hard Brexit. I do agree with you that Corbyn has made it worse, but Labour were pretty fucked anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18038 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 It's about simple solutions to complex problems, people are scared and angry. The UK doesn't have a viable anti-establishment party, does it? UKIP were toast once the Tories went for a hard Brexit. I do agree with you that Corbyn has made it worse, but Labour were pretty fucked anyway. I don't think you can say that with certainty. May wouldn't have called this election against a "normal" leader. It couldn't be worse for Labour as things stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 We'll probably always wonder how Labour with a strong pro-EU stance and a competent leader would have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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