Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER

[Howmanheyman 32595]

 

 

 

 

[Dr Gloom 21756]

20 hours ago, PaddockLad said:

Given the opposition to PIF’s takeover I can’t believe they’d vote for this mind…

 

 

 

it's pissing off all the right people 👍

 

 

[Dazzler 9269]

14 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

it's pissing off all the right people 👍

 

 

Is Delaney still going? He does know that "the most wealthy can keep paying whatever they want" is bollocks, doesn't he? Business is still business, and even the most wealthy investors will (eventually) want a return on their investment. All this rule change will bring about is allowing teams with owners that have the means to invest large sums into their business to grow and succeed can do so, but at a premium - a premium which would then be filtered down to the clubs that don't, benefiting them to an extent too.

 

Also, so long as UEFA don't bow to the pressure of the PL and make it a universal thing then their rules would still apply for European competitions meaning teams like Man City and his beloved Man Utd couldn't "spend what they want".

 

The bloke is the worst kind of idiot.

[ewerk 30159]

It's communism is what it is.

[Howmanheyman 32595]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gemmill 44090]

It's fucking true though.

 

I read something just yesterday which almost seemed to suggest that they'd plucked him from obscurity. 

 

So fucking weird. 

[Renton 21032]

This is the SMB's official accountant's take on the luxury tax. I thought their frat kid owner literally relied on money from the bank of Mam?

 

[NJS 4355]

Not an expert on their history but surely most clubs in the "bank of England" era were getting 50/60/70k crowds - did the mackems have a more successful club shop than others? Access to overseas markets? Global tv deals? 

 

I'd guess it was their owners pockets the same as Liverpool in a slightly later era. 

[Howmanheyman 32595]

4 minutes ago, NJS said:

Not an expert on their history but surely most clubs in the "bank of England" era were getting 50/60/70k crowds - did the mackems have a more successful club shop than others? Access to overseas markets? Global tv deals? 

 

I'd guess it was their owners pockets the same as Liverpool in a slightly later era. 

 

They had a global pull after selling the pathé film reels to MGM for the documentary by William Chumley-Brewece called 'Simply Splendidly Sunderland football club from Roker Park.' Made them a fortune so they reckon.

[Meenzer 15342]

15 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said:

 

They had a global pull after selling the pathé film reels to MGM for the documentary by William Chumley-Brewece called 'Simply Splendidly Sunderland football club from Roker Park.' Made them a fortune so they reckon.

 

Theme tune by George Formby, if I remember correctly. On a river where they currently build the boats... turned out nice again!

[ewerk 30159]

On 02/04/2024 at 08:59, Dazzler said:

I would definitely say Rashford. Get him in under Howe with his man management skills stick him up top (since neither of our strikers are ever at 100%) and he'll nail the goals in.

 

He seems like a canny enough lad off the pitch, and his form is completely linked to the absolute basket case of a club he plays for and the entitled fans that constantly get on his back whenever he misses a chance. Also - the right wing tory cunts that support man utd that were against him providing food to vulnerable kids during covid.

 

You couldn't have him on the left of a front three under Howe as he just wouldn't do the graft that Gordon or Barnes do (he's probably shit at the defensive stuff anyway) but whenever he's played central he often drops deep to receive the ball and start attacks (a bit like Isak does for us).

 

Bear in mind that the lad had been on the pitch less than 20 minutes at this stage.

 

 

[Holden McGroin 6451]

Rashford is a strange one. I can only assume he has fallen out with Eric Ten Nonce. He knows he got pelters for this previously (Fulham game where social media blew up over his lack of pressing) but he still strolls around. I'd have him out the squad immediately. 

 

[Dazzler 9269]

29 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

Bear in mind that the lad had been on the pitch less than 20 minutes at this stage.

 

 

That's a fair amount of effort to put into a game when you play for man utd tbf.

[Dazzler 9269]

20 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

Rashford is a strange one. I can only assume he has fallen out with Eric Ten Nonce. He knows he got pelters for this previously (Fulham game where social media blew up over his lack of pressing) but he still strolls around. I'd have him out the squad immediately. 

 

I don't think it's all that strange as he clearly has the ability to get 30 goals a season for them (the only player in their team that can), so they can't really afford to bench him - but like you said I get the impression he doesn't get on with the manager at all and isn't willing to put the yards in to do him any favours. 

[Alex 34717]

He’s too woke. That’s his problem 

[Holden McGroin 6451]

1 hour ago, Dazzler said:

I don't think it's all that strange as he clearly has the ability to get 30 goals a season for them (the only player in their team that can), so they can't really afford to bench him - but like you said I get the impression he doesn't get on with the manager at all and isn't willing to put the yards in to do him any favours. 

oh yeah. He 100% has the ability to do it but his body language, application and his behaviour this season would mean he won’t get anywhere near it. 
 

His lack of effort is actually disrespectful to the club.

 

Love it. 

[Howmanheyman 32595]

3 hours ago, Meenzer said:

 

Theme tune by George Formby, if I remember correctly. On a river where they currently build the boats... turned out nice again!

 

 

I bought one of George Formby's grills a few years ago, the meat always turned out nice again.

[Monkeys Fist 41888]

4 hours ago, NJS said:

Access to overseas markets?

Bilbao marra, Bil-fucken-bao. 

[aimaad22 4082]

4 hours ago, Dazzler said:

I don't think it's all that strange as he clearly has the ability to get 30 goals a season for them (the only player in their team that can), so they can't really afford to bench him - but like you said I get the impression he doesn't get on with the manager at all and isn't willing to put the yards in to do him any favours. 

 

Hardly a good look that is it? Dont get on with the manager so half arse it and make videos about how committed you are? I'm sure ManUtd fans are thrilled with his attitude. Also maybe I'm wrong but he's been a regular starter under Ten Hag and even moved back to his favorite position after making a fuss about not liking playing through the center, it's hardly like the manager has thrown him under the bus. 

[Alex 34717]

1 hour ago, Monkeys Fist said:

Bilbao marra, Bil-fucken-bao. 

In and around Bilbao actually 

[Gemmill 44090]

5 hours ago, ewerk said:

 

Bear in mind that the lad had been on the pitch less than 20 minutes at this stage.

 

 

 

Just as well Ron Atkinson isn't getting punditry work these days. 

[ewerk 30159]

1 hour ago, aimaad22 said:

 

Hardly a good look that is it? Dont get on with the manager so half arse it and make videos about how committed you are? I'm sure ManUtd fans are thrilled with his attitude. Also maybe I'm wrong but he's been a regular starter under Ten Hag and even moved back to his favorite position after making a fuss about not liking playing through the center, it's hardly like the manager has thrown him under the bus. 

Whatever the reason, he’s just signed a massive new contract and given the choice between sacking the manager or letting their star player rot on the bench the board are always going to back the player.

 

Fuck you, Rashford.

[Kid Dynamite 6961]

On 04/04/2024 at 21:20, GrahamTaylor5 said:

Is this all down to teams 'growing' (or finding/stockpiling) youth to sell? I can understand how we are above Spurs but I don't get Liverpool.

Coutinho, Mane and Fabinho sales netted Liverpool £200mil, which offset their net spend a canny bit 

[NJS 4355]

[OTF 7214]

On 05/04/2024 at 06:40, PaddockLad said:

Illuminating

 

 

That's a highly misleading and therefore rather useless list. Calling it 'Net spending' makes it sound like it's the total spending (on players), which it very fucking obviously isn't, and the accuracy of the numbers is likely pulled from publicly listed 'data' which is unfortunately bound to be wrong. A table showing actual net spending on players would be much more illuminating, that being the total cost to assemble all members

on the clubs books throught that period (including those who are loaned out) as well as the cost outlay for wages through that period although this would be even more susceptibility to inaccuracy. In that 10 years period for example Man Cities wages are in the vicinity of £1.7b whereas our wages are in the vicinity of £700m. So looking at wages combined with the above net transfers that puts Man City at £2.43b and us at £1.28b. Liverpool by comparison come bounding past us with conservative totals around £1.8b softened by them ripping off Barcelona selling Coutinho for over £100m. And this is not including facility and general operating costs which for us would have been absolute barebones through the Ashley years. As we know our spend is only so high because the starting point for our squad and our Youth system and training facilities are well behind the curve for the quality of team we are aiming to be.