Monkeys Fist 47064 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:28, Howmanheyman said: I'd have their CF. Expand Love a bit of Caldo Fredo mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 47064 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:28, Clarko said: And your point was what? Shelvey is bad, I have an old car... Yeah screw actual numbers, statistics and facts right... Expand If you can give me your point about Shelvey in 20 words, I’ll give you mine in less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34896 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:28, Clarko said: And your point was what? Shelvey is bad, I have an old car... Yeah screw actual numbers, statistics and facts right... Expand If the game were based on statistics then Stephen Hawking could have won us the European Cup. Anyone with eyes knows that Shelvey is a liability when he’s not going through one of his purple patches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 15428 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Aren’t Shelvey’s stats for goals and assists shite anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2549 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:28, Clarko said: And your point was what? Shelvey is bad, I have an old car... Yeah screw actual numbers, statistics and facts right... Expand Your point is that the squad is pretty good, it’s the coaching that’s been the problem over the last 7 years. That’s entirely a matter of opinion that has nothing to do with statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4911 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Can we have an IP check on Clarko? Stinks of cheesy chips imo 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:15, Clarko said: Bruce spent ~£127.17m in three seasons, Benitez spent ~£153.46m in the three seasons before Bruce was appointed. Saying it's a 'dire squad' and saying that 'average players cost upwards of £30m' just isn't true... Is Allan Saint-Maximin less than an average player? He cost ~£16.20m. What about Demarai Gray? He must be awful if he only cost ~£1.70m. Valentino Livramento at ~£5.31m? Can't be a good player. Cristiano Ronaldo? ~£13.50m? Terrible. Price does not equal quality. Incredibly, uninformed, silly argument. Yeah the players are bad because you say they are right? Okay... Expand Oh so value and quality are unrelated. That's why PSG paid £200m for Neymar and not Sammy Ameobi. Go find a league one forum you sister snagging little cunt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 ShElVeY iS a QuArTeRbAcK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLogic 16 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:39, ewerk said: If the game were based on statistics then Stephen Hawking could have won us the European Cup. Anyone with eyes knows that Shelvey is a liability when he’s not going through one of his purple patches. Expand Have you heard of Ian Graham? Dafydd Steele? Tim Waskett? Laurie Shaw? Matthew Benham? Do you know what StatDNA is? QlikView? Wyscout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLogic 16 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:46, Kitman said: Your point is that the squad is pretty good, it’s the coaching that’s been the problem over the last 7 years. That’s entirely a matter of opinion that has nothing to do with statistics. Expand I can use statistics to support my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16951 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:56, Clarko said: Have you heard of Ian Graham? Dafydd Steele? Tim Waskett? Laurie Shaw? Matthew Benham? Do you know what StatDNA is? QlikView? Wyscout? Expand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLogic 16 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:52, TheGingerQuiff said: Oh so value and quality are unrelated. That's why PSG paid £200m for Neymar and not Sammy Ameobi. Go find a league one forum you sister snagging little cunt Expand I never said that... I said price does not equal quality. It doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Statistically NUFC have been shite for the vast majority of the time both Shelvey and Gayle have been at the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 21:00, Clarko said: I never said that... I said price does not equal quality. It doesn't. Expand So why do better players generally cost the most then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 47064 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 21:01, TheGingerQuiff said: So why do better players generally cost the most then? Expand You’ll have to ask Dafydd and Tim, if they’ve finished rimming Jürgen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4911 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:56, Monkeys Fist said: If I started giving out members locations, things would quickly head South. Shields and protections are there for a reason. Expand I’m a smoggy in Manchester mate. If that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLogic 16 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 21:01, TheGingerQuiff said: So why do better players generally cost the most then? Expand I don't quite get what you don't understand when I say that price does not equal quality... You cannot base a players ability solely on his price tag like someone suggested... It's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 47064 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 21:06, strawb said: I’m a smoggy in Manchester mate. If that helps Expand We’re here to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 21:07, Clarko said: I don't quite get what you don't understand when I say that price does not equal quality... You cannot base a players ability solely on his price tag like someone suggested... It's that simple. Expand So to summarise price doesn't equal quality it just HEAVILY correlates to it. Hence teams like Chelsea and Man City winning the premier league and not, say, Hartlepool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLogic 16 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 21:13, TheGingerQuiff said: So to summarise price doesn't equal quality it just HEAVILY correlates to it. Hence teams like Chelsea and Man City winning the premier league and not, say, Hartlepool Expand That's a different argument... You're now trying to argue that money equals success... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 47064 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 21:07, Clarko said: I don't quite get what you don't understand… Expand FYP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3962 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Shelvey and Gayle are both nowhere near good enough, Rafa knew and was happy for them to be nowhere near the team. To argue otherwise is just a sad attempt at wummery. As for the arguement about Rafa spending more and getting the team relegated, well it’s laughable and could only come from someone who isn’t a supporter but quite possibly is Luke Edwards, ie. a clueless cunt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2549 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:59, Clarko said: I can use statistics to support my opinion. Expand It’s still just your opinion, not fact. And arguing over whether the players are shite or just average is pretty pointless, given the club’s aim is to bring in better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 38695 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:18, strawb said: Is this bloke off your podcast Fish? Expand On 17/11/2021 at 20:56, Clarko said: Have you heard of Ian Graham? Dafydd Steele? Tim Waskett? Laurie Shaw? Matthew Benham? Do you know what StatDNA is? QlikView? Wyscout? Expand Confirmed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Doh'liver 219 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 20:26, Clarko said: Wow... I never said that he was or he wasn't suitable for a Howe and that wasn't the argument... Expand Did you bother to look at the thread title before replying I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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