Howmanheyman 38431 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 27/01/2025 at 16:22, The Fish said: That kind of switch, shifting Owen back a bit, or when Robson told Shearer to stop showing defenders his back and run at them instead, I think that's more the man management side of things. And Keegan was an absolute genius at that. Howe was absolutely done by Iraola, but that was as much down to the squad having a poor game as it was Iraola's wits and Howe's short comings (which he undoubtedly has). I am surprised Keegan hasn't been involved much since the takeover. I would have expected some kind of dog and pony show. Expand I just think he's quite happy to stay out of the limelight and wrongly thinks he ultimately failed up here. Sky's never ending 'love it' video and the wrong interpretation of it through the years since has a lot to answer for and has clouded his reputation by people who were in nappies at the time or not even born and haven't got a fucking clue. To me and and the NUFC fans who watched it at the time with me it was a rallying call and if he'd demanded it we'd have marched on Old Trafford there and then! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 24111 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 https://archive.is/QjDQW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 38164 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 27/01/2025 at 12:20, Monkeys Fist said: CT at the news of another young Oirish lad to slaver over… Expand 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 38164 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 27/01/2025 at 16:22, The Fish said: That kind of switch, shifting Owen back a bit, or when Robson told Shearer to stop showing defenders his back and run at them instead, I think that's more the man management side of things. And Keegan was an absolute genius at that. Howe was absolutely done by Iraola, but that was as much down to the squad having a poor game as it was Iraola's wits and Howe's short comings (which he undoubtedly has). I am surprised Keegan hasn't been involved much since the takeover. I would have expected some kind of dog and pony show. Expand Lots of water under the bridge and KK and Ashley were never going to see eye to eye. But the tactical astuteness of KK is quite underrated imo. Especially by the time his second spell at the club came around. People also forget in terms of his ‘naivety’ that NUFC was his first job in management. I know we get it on here but a lot of people just go off cliches. Re: his second spell here, in that first part season the Owen thing was more than just man-management. The media had made a big deal of Owen’s criticism of KK in the former’s autobiography* and KK making Owen captain was a great hit of psychology. But getting Owen to play deeper, in a sort of old fashioned inside right position, with Viduka as the target man and Martins terrifying defenders with his pace wide left was really effective. And no fucker was playing a proper 4-3-3 in the premier league then. Don’t give me Mourinho with his 4-5-1. *Tbf Owen wouldn’t even have read it, let alone written it. The little cunt 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 38431 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 28/01/2025 at 10:43, Alex said: Lots of water under the bridge and KK and Ashley were never going to see eye to eye. But the tactical astuteness of KK is quite underrated imo. Especially by the time his second spell at the club came around. People also forget in terms of his ‘naivety’ that NUFC was his first job in management. I know we get it on here but a lot of people just go off cliches. Re: his second spell here, in that first part season the Owen thing was more than just man-management. The media had made a big deal of Owen’s criticism of KK in the former’s autobiography* and KK making Owen captain was a great hit of psychology. But getting Owen to play deeper, in a sort of old fashioned inside right position, with Viduka as the target man and Martins terrifying defenders with his pace wide left was really effective. And no fucker was playing a proper 4-3-3 in the premier league then. Don’t give me Mourinho with his 4-5-1. *Tbf Owen wouldn’t even have read it, let alone written it. The little cunt Expand Can't agree Alex, the papers and sky said he wasn't very good and lost the mind games in the one season he was in charge of us when his shitness got found out by the greatest manager to have lived at the greatest club in the world (and definitely the biggest), who beat him with his very own kids. They hunted him down and everybody lived happily ever after and the next generation of pundits for twenty years plus were formed. Amen. #SkyChildren 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 12423 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Leeds linked with Targett per Leeds randoms online 🤷♂️ circa £15 Mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10801 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 28/01/2025 at 17:02, Toonpack said: Leeds linked with Targett per Leeds randoms online 🤷♂️ circa £15 Mill. Expand 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24476 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I didn’t realise Peter Risdale was still running the show there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 8173 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 £15m must be a typo...surely £1.5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 8053 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Rumours that Leeds re interested in Targett, Everton are interested in Longstaff and Juve are interested in Kelly. Wilson, Lascelles, Ruddy, Gillespie and Lewis all out of contract in the Summer. Could be a decent squad rebuild needed in the Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24476 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Longstaff would probably excel for Moyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 12423 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 If we sell Longstaff (don’t think we will) won’t we struggle for home grown numbers if we get into Europe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 8053 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 28/01/2025 at 19:57, Toonpack said: If we sell Longstaff (don’t think we will) won’t we struggle for home grown numbers if we get into Europe. Expand We could stick Sanusi on the bench if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34701 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 28/01/2025 at 19:57, Toonpack said: If we sell Longstaff (don’t think we will) won’t we struggle for home grown numbers if we get into Europe. Expand Sell him in January and re-sign him in July for half the money after the Everton fans hound him out. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 24111 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 28/01/2025 at 19:50, Kid Dynamite said: Rumours that Leeds re interested in Targett, Everton are interested in Longstaff and Juve are interested in Kelly. Wilson, Lascelles, Ruddy, Gillespie and Lewis all out of contract in the Summer. Could be a decent squad rebuild needed in the Summer. Expand It wouldn't surprise me if we extended Lascelles contract. I wouldn't. I would let them all go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 496 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 28/01/2025 at 19:57, Toonpack said: If we sell Longstaff (don’t think we will) won’t we struggle for home grown numbers if we get into Europe. Expand Just sign Freddie Woodman & Tim Krul as numbers 2 & 3 and there's 2 of the 4 used up who'll hardly ever play anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10801 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 28/01/2025 at 20:20, Optimistic Nut said: Just sign Freddie Woodman & Tim Krul as numbers 2 & 3 and there's 2 of the 4 used up who'll hardly ever play anyway. Expand unbelievable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34701 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 28/01/2025 at 20:20, Optimistic Nut said: Just sign Freddie Woodman & Tim Krul as numbers 2 & 3 and there's 2 of the 4 used up who'll hardly ever play anyway. Expand Aye, because we need ANOTHER two goalkeepers. Fucking idiot. Re-signing Paul Dummet and Peter Ramage are the only logical choices. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8938 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 28/01/2025 at 19:57, Toonpack said: If we sell Longstaff (don’t think we will) won’t we struggle for home grown numbers if we get into Europe. Expand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7618 Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 On 28/01/2025 at 19:54, Dr Gloom said: Longstaff would probably excel for Moyes Expand Moyes doesn’t do spreadsheets man. Old school. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 12873 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 28/01/2025 at 23:25, trophyshy said: Moyes doesn’t do spreadsheets man. Old school. Expand 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 496 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 28/01/2025 at 21:52, ewerk said: Aye, because we need ANOTHER two goalkeepers. Fucking idiot. Re-signing Paul Dummet and Peter Ramage are the only logical choices. Expand Well I'm assuming we'd get rid of Vlach, Gillespie & Ruddy in this scenario like. But there's 4 GK academy products in the Championship or above at the minute, would tick a big box bringing one back in the "Carson role" and getting shot of a few of the others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11502 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Quote On top of a maximum 25 players for List A, clubs had to designate a minimum 8 players that were trained by clubs from the same national league, with 4 of them being from the club's own youth system. UEFA defines locally-trained or 'homegrown' players as those who, regardless of their nationality, have been trained by their club or by another club in the same national association for at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21. Expand We'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34701 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Is Longstaff the only over 21 player we have on the books who qualifies as club trained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11502 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 29/01/2025 at 09:42, ewerk said: Is Longstaff the only over 21 player we have on the books who qualifies as club trained? Expand Nathan Carlyon. No, I have no idea either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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