Kid Dynamite 7645 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: How the fuck does this lad have interest from Juventus? Have you seen their squad these days? Italian football has gone down the shitter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7645 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 3 hours ago, wykikitoon said: Bad move to sell IMO Dunno. Krafth is fit again and has looked no worse than Kelly when he's played CB. We've spent years pleading PSR poverty and haven't signed a player for the first XI in 3 or 4 windows. I'd rather have £20-25m in the bank to upgrade one position properly than have Almiron and Kelly warming the bench for the next 20 games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22924 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 4 hours ago, Isegrim said: Would be a good move in regards to PSR issues though and maybe enable us to go for a player in positions we need to strengthen first. @ewerk could maybe tell us. What bearing would this have on PSR if we keep now and sell in Summer? Where we (IMO) well have a better chance of signing someone and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22924 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said: Dunno. Krafth is fit again and has looked no worse than Kelly when he's played CB. We've spent years pleading PSR poverty and haven't signed a player for the first XI in 3 or 4 windows. I'd rather have £20-25m in the bank to upgrade one position properly than have Almiron and Kelly warming the bench for the next 20 games So you would rather have £20m in the bank and weaken a key area in CB and then buy someone in summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5157 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, wykikitoon said: So you would rather have £20m in the bank and weaken a key area in CB and then buy someone in summer? Calculated risk but letting Almiron and Kelly go this month and being able to properly operate in the market in Summer is one I'd take. Yes we'd be technically weaker without them but they've got less than 900 mins for us put together this season, we can cover that loss imo but they don't get more valuable in summer by virtue of having less contract time and playing so little. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22924 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 25 minutes ago, Andrew said: Calculated risk but letting Almiron and Kelly go this month and being able to properly operate in the market in Summer is one I'd take. Yes we'd be technically weaker without them but they've got less than 900 mins for us put together this season, we can cover that loss imo but they don't get more valuable in summer by virtue of having less contract time and playing so little. Id certainly sell Miggy. Kelly, not in this window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23654 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 If both left and bakkayoko came in, would anyone complain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22924 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: If both left and bakkayoko came in, would anyone complain? Probably not although I would be nervous a little at the back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22924 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I wonder what the chances are if Spurs stay shit, if we could get Kulusevski for the RW role in the summer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3926 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 The spitfire shaggers surely know they are already down, so we may as well throw them an offering for Dibling now. 20 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I wonder what the chances are if Spurs stay shit, if we could get Kulusevski for the RW role in the summer? Perfect opportunity for Levy to make some of the ridiculous amount we got from them for Sisoko back, so no thanks. Chelsea will be having a fire sale, so better value to be had there. And if Kelly isn't even trusted to be used as a sub against his old club, may as well move him on now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19034 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Kelly : AFCB > Newcastle Huijsen : Juve > AFCB Kelly : Newcastle > Juve 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33242 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, wykikitoon said: @ewerk could maybe tell us. What bearing would this have on PSR if we keep now and sell in Summer? Where we (IMO) well have a better chance of signing someone and better. January is a tough time to buy but a great time to sell. Kelly isn’t getting game time with us which is making other sides think they can get him for a ‘reasonable’ price. We make a quick buck and a profit PSR wise on a payer who isn’t getting a game for us. Everyone is happy apart from Gemmill’s. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22924 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 18 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Kelly : AFCB > Newcastle Huijsen : Juve > AFCB Kelly : Newcastle > Juve 🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 12501 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 4 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Kelly : AFCB > Newcastle Huijsen : Juve > AFCB Kelly : Newcastle > Juve 🤔 4 hours ago, wykikitoon said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 485 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I bet the Premier League are this week trying to figure out how they can tweak PSR enough to let Man Utd & Arsenal to spend again, but still stop us, Villa & Forest from doing the same. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23654 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Willock coming on at RW for Murphy against Bournemouth said it all. He was completely ineffective, not alone on Saturday, of course. I don't know if we have any money to reinforce the squad this month, the noises coming out of the club suggest not, but if we do, it's the obvious area that needs to be improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11394 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Willock coming on at RW for Murphy against Bournemouth said it all. He was completely ineffective, not alone on Saturday, of course. I don't know if we have any money to reinforce the squad this month, the noises coming out of the club suggest not, but if we do, it's the obvious area that needs to be improved. Big Joe went RW and Willock went central I thought 🤷♂️ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23654 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 2 hours ago, Toonpack said: Big Joe went RW and Willock went central I thought 🤷♂️ kind of. i think they were trying to replicate what they used to do on the left side, interchanging. i saw willock in wide positions loads. either way, it didn't work. not that miggy would have been any better. we're desperate in that area when murphy isn't firing Edited January 20 by Dr Gloom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7652 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Big Joe went RW and Willock went central I thought 🤷♂️ He did. I think the point still stands though. Barnes is good for a goal and although they did dominate us there was always a chance we could pinch something when it was 2-1. Gordon had a hell of a volley that could have made it 2-2 at one point then you never know. Edited January 20 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23654 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, Holden McGroin said: He did. I think the point the still stands though. Barnes is good for a goal and although they didn't dominate us there was always a chance we could pinch something when it was 2-1. Gordon had a hell of a volley that could have made it 2-2 at one point then you never know. i think that's clutching a bit. sometimes you have to credit the opposition team and manager. they did their homework and completely bossed the game. 4-1 didn't flatter them at all. it could have easily been 6 or 7 but for dubravka making loads of good saves, many of which were shots from inside our box. we didn't test their keeper in the second half, i don't recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11323 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 17/01/2025 at 15:35, Toonpack said: You know shit, that's for sure. So Schar is ahead of Kelly for LCB is he ?? I'll destroy the rest of your post later. If Schar is playing LCB, it's because both Burn and Botman are unavailable. Botman and Burn are both ahead of Kelly at LCB, so in his favoured fucking position he's at best 3rd choice. At CB he's definitely behind Schar as well, so that puts him 1...2...3....ohhh right, 4th fucking choice. Put it this way, if Schar plus one of Botman and Burn were unavailable, Howe is as likely to select Krafth to play RCB as he is Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22924 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Toonpack said: Big Joe went RW and Willock went central I thought 🤷♂️ They all look the same in glooms eyes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11394 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 21 minutes ago, The Fish said: If Schar is playing LCB, it's because both Burn and Botman are unavailable. Botman and Burn are both ahead of Kelly at LCB, so in his favoured fucking position he's at best 3rd choice. At CB he's definitely behind Schar as well, so that puts him 1...2...3....ohhh right, 4th fucking choice. Put it this way, if Schar plus one of Botman and Burn were unavailable, Howe is as likely to select Krafth to play RCB as he is Kelly. There are 2 centre back positions that require depth, Left and Right CB, Kelly is a left sided defender and currently 3rd choice LCB, behind Burn and Botman, we are terribly exposed at RCB. Kelly is also 3rd choice LB (IF Targett is fit, 2nd if not). Schar will never be in the conversation to play LCB. Krafth would get the nod at RCB as he's right footed, Kelly would likewise get the nod on the left. Next season Targett will likely be gone so Kelly will likely be 2nd choice LB - he should also be ahead of Burn as he'll be another year older and even slower. It's quite simple really - Sell him and we'll have to replace him in the summer to avoid all getting old together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11323 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, Toonpack said: There are 2 centre back positions that require depth, Left and Right CB, Kelly is a left sided defender and currently 3rd choice LCB, behind Burn and Botman, we are terribly exposed at RCB. Kelly is also 3rd choice LB (IF Targett is fit, 2nd if not). Schar will never be in the conversation to play LCB. Krafth would get the nod at RCB as he's right footed, Kelly would likewise get the nod on the left. Next season Targett will likely be gone so Kelly will likely be 2nd choice LB - he should also be ahead of Burn as he'll be another year older and even slower. It's quite simple really - Sell him and we'll have to replace him in the summer to avoid all getting old together. You're right, in that there are two CB positions that require depth. But Kelly isn't 2nd choice for either of them, he also isn't second choice at left back. That would be Big Dan Burn. And then it's a conversation about whether Lloyd Kelly is chosen ahead of Matt Targett or not. So he's possibly 3rd to 4th choice there as well. You're arguing to retain the services of someone that, in all likelihood, won't get a game. We 100% should be replacing him, but not with a middling, 26yr old, free transfer. We should replace him with a young and promising centreback (Hujsen at Bournemouth is a good example), or we should sign someone that pushes Schar down the pecking order by being as good as or better than Botman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7652 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I’d say Tino was 2nd or 3rd choice LB. Hall Tino Targett Burn That’s decent cover in an emergency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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