Gemmill 43853 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 5 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: @Gemmill Fill it in and send it off Fuck that, he's still a super limited manager. I call him THE HANDBRAKE. Replace him with someone decent and the handbrake comes off. I hope he wins the tournament and goes out on a high cos he's done loads for the culture of the team, and has really supported the players through some absolute bullshit from fans and media. But he's undoubtedly holding this set of players back. And I understand how ridiculous it sounds to be saying that I want him to win the tournament so he can leave. But I'll not be the only one. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9166 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 11 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: @Gemmill Fill it in and send it off "I don't know true managing actually is" 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10648 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 17 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Fuck that, he's still a super limited manager. I call him THE HANDBRAKE. Replace him with someone decent and the handbrake comes off. I hope he wins the tournament and goes out on a high cos he's done loads for the culture of the team, and has really supported the players through some absolute bullshit from fans and media. But he's undoubtedly holding this set of players back. And I understand how ridiculous it sounds to be saying that I want him to win the tournament so he can leave. But I'll not be the only one. It would be a brilliant way to end his tenure. He's got England further in competitions than most of the spuds that are foisted upon the English public, but he's absolutely a safety-first manager. Which would be fine if they had a limited squad, but some of the attacking talent at his disposal (and the paucity of defending talent) should mean they play more on the front-foot. Saka, Foden, Watkins, Toney, Palmer, Bellingham, Gordon, should not be hamstrung by favouring an increasingly static Harry Kane. He deserves more credit than he gets, but definitely deserves the criticism he gets. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30096 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Is there any argument still to be made for Kane starting the final? That was his sixth game of the tournament and he’s yet to play well. You’re going into the final and now is the time to be ruthless, there’s nothing to be gained in persisting with Kane up front. If he starts then I can see Spain having a field day as they will have nothing to worry about at the back. If you play Watkins or Toney then their mobility will cause Spain a lot more problems than Kane will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43853 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 He should start Watkins, but he won't drop his captain. No way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19716 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: Is there any argument still to be made for Kane starting the final? That was his sixth game of the tournament and he’s yet to play well. You’re going into the final and now is the time to be ruthless, there’s nothing to be gained in persisting with Kane up front. If he starts then I can see Spain having a field day as they will have nothing to worry about at the back. If you play Watkins or Toney then their mobility will cause Spain a lot more problems than Kane will. No he shouldn't have played half as many minutes as he has. Watkins should have been on more. But will that change Southgate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10648 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 7 minutes ago, ewerk said: Is there any argument still to be made for Kane starting the final? That was his sixth game of the tournament and he’s yet to play well. You’re going into the final and now is the time to be ruthless, there’s nothing to be gained in persisting with Kane up front. If he starts then I can see Spain having a field day as they will have nothing to worry about at the back. If you play Watkins or Toney then their mobility will cause Spain a lot more problems than Kane will. It's not even like there aren't sufficiently capable leaders (or penalty takers) in the England squad. It would also be something Spain wouldn't expect. The Door and The Norman would expect a pretty easy day against the cinderblock, but Watkins will, at the very least, make them use some energy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9166 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 11 minutes ago, ewerk said: Is there any argument still to be made for Kane starting the final? That was his sixth game of the tournament and he’s yet to play well. You’re going into the final and now is the time to be ruthless, there’s nothing to be gained in persisting with Kane up front. If he starts then I can see Spain having a field day as they will have nothing to worry about at the back. If you play Watkins or Toney then their mobility will cause Spain a lot more problems than Kane will. From a style of play perspective then it should be Watkins, and it's not debatable for me. However, the fact that Kane is the captain is why I think he's still getting the nod. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 8982 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 44 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: It's been fucking shite. Bellingham has been over hyped by himself. Kane is ready for Glue Trippier has had a fucking tonne of shite whilst Walker has got off Scott free. Rice has been shite Yet we're in the final 😂 and I really couldn't care less if we win. viva espana! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4707 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 I haven't watched us in the knockout stages at all. I don't care enough about England to commit to a two hour shite game of football. If there was even a glimmer of a chance of entertainment during the games, I'd be watching. If we're incapable of making it entertaining at any point I really don't give a fuck if we win. I'll have the final on on Monday morning because Spain are in it and they're great to watch. England will also be there I suppose. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7181 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said: I mean fuck all that. The football has been mind numbingly boring to watch, we’ve scraped through a fair few games by the skin of our teeth against lesser teams and he has nowhere near got the best out of the talent available to him. A better manager could have romped home with that squad, playing good football. @Christmas Tree totally has the hang of this management lark. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7181 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: @Gemmill Fill it in and send it off This attempted meme has defeated itself by putting "I don't watch actual games" on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21735 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: And I almost forgot... IN YOUR FACE, RONALD KOEMAN! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3163 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Funny SMB 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7181 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 17 minutes ago, Andrew said: I haven't watched us in the knockout stages at all. I don't care enough about England to commit to a two hour shite game of football. If there was even a glimmer of a chance of entertainment during the games, I'd be watching. If we're incapable of making it entertaining at any point I really don't give a fuck if we win. I'll have the final on on Monday morning because Spain are in it and they're great to watch. England will also be there I suppose. Having both English and Spanish blood I have already prepared my victory speech. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9166 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, Tdansmith said: Funny SMB VVD looks like a dad in the summer holidays dealing with his disabled toddler. He knows he's there and he's just about done with his shit. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19716 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 7 minutes ago, Tdansmith said: Funny SMB Typical disrespect from 6 finfered cunts. But enough of VVD 😂😛 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21735 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 kane looks finished. or at least he needs runners playing around him and beyond him in a way that this england side isn't set up to do. agree with those saying watkins to start, but he will stick with kane. southgate is a massively frustrating manager. he made the right subs in the end but left them so late again. it could have been comfortable if he'd made the changes on 60-70 minutes instead of 80. but for all of his faults, you have to give him some credit - he knows how to go deep in tournament football. the players play for him and each other in a way that previous generations failed to do. three semi finals, two finals and a quarter final - it doesn't get much better than that. just need to finally go and win the bloody thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9166 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 4 minutes ago, Dazzler said: VVD looks like a dad in the summer holidays dealing with his disabled toddler. He knows he's there and he's just about done with his shit. "How long is she ganna be at Tesco for man?! She was aah'nly gannin' for a pint of milk and a telly paper. Aah'm ganna slap this little cunt aahl owa if she doesn't get back soon like." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9166 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: kane looks finished. or at least he needs runners playing around him and beyond him in a way that this england side isn't set up to do. agree with those saying watkins to start, but he will stick with kane. southgate is a massively frustrating manager. he made the right subs in the end but left them so late again. it could have been comfortable if he'd made the changes on 60-70 minutes instead of 80. but for all of his faults, you have to give him some credit - he knows how to go deep in tournament football. the players play for him and each other in a way that previous generations failed to do. three semi finals, two finals and a quarter final - it doesn't get much better than that. just need to finally go and win the bloody thing. Sack him and replace him before the final. They need to do what teams used to do with Neil Warnock - "Thanks for getting us promoted, Neil now fuck off so we can bring in someone decent to do the shit you can't" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6432 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, wykikitoon said: It's been fucking shite. Bellingham has been over hyped by himself. Kane is ready for Glue Trippier has had a fucking tonne of shite whilst Walker has got off Scott free. Rice has been shite Yet we're in the final 😂 and I really couldn't care less if we win. Orrrrrr you're pretending not to because you CANT FACE Gareth bringing it home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 2594 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, wykikitoon said: Kane is ready for Glue As for Rice, never rated him and this tournament hasn't changed my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43853 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 16 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: CUNT FACE Gareth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19716 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 4 minutes ago, MrBass said: As for Rice, never rated him and this tournament hasn't changed my mind. I thought he had a cracking season with Arsenal. But then comes into a team with Handbrake as manager....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7066 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 51 minutes ago, Andrew said: I haven't watched us in the knockout stages at all. I don't care enough about England to commit to a two hour shite game of football. If there was even a glimmer of a chance of entertainment during the games, I'd be watching. If we're incapable of making it entertaining at any point I really don't give a fuck if we win. I'll have the final on on Monday morning because Spain are in it and they're great to watch. England will also be there I suppose. England were pretty entertaining last night. I know it is hard to believe, but there it was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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