Holden McGroin 8047 Posted yesterday at 21:52 Share Posted yesterday at 21:52 If we get Europa we’d have a good chance of winning that anyway. Win. win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8730 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, Holden McGroin said: If we get Europa we’d have a good chance of winning that anyway. Win. win. Except you have the additional load of games and subsequent player demands without anywhere near the amount of remuneration and winning it is not as easy as you make it sound. Of the prize money in the European competitions 75% is apportioned to the Champions League, 17% to Europa and 8% to Conference League. Winning the Europa League nets you a tidy sum; ballpark €13m on top of the equal share and value pillar, the latter of which is based off European coefficient/ranking (teams with little or no European football in the preceding years receive a smaller percentage of this stream compared to clubs with frequent European football). The bigger prize from winning is qualifications to the Champions League. If you want to get an understanding of how much difference the 'value pillar' makes to revenue for clubs in the champions league the best comparison is us versus Man Utd from 23/24. We were both knocked out in the group stages. Our results were better in the group stage; 1W, 2D, 3L compared to their 1W, 1D, 4L so our performance based income was higher. They received €60m, we received €34m. Further ingrained monopolisation of the top financial positions of football clubs. Man United's total prize money from the Europa League this season will probably end up being more than ours from the Champion's League and that's before you even consider how if they win it they'll be in the Champion's League next season. Victory in the Europa League final is a HUGE get out of free jail card to (at this stage) one of Tottenham or Man Utd. As well as the bonus of winning it's effectively a minimum €60m additional revenue next season PLUS additional ticket sales, corporate revenue and sponsorship etc. If they progress beyond the group stages that base €60m could be upwards of €100m. It would be amazing if they both somehow didn't win it. Edited 21 hours ago by OTF 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5553 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago I don't think anyones going to argue that the money side of the CL vs the europa league. But Holden is right, we'd go into a europa league campaign as one of the favourites to win the competition and that would be a lot of fun. I've said not so long since that it would be a disappointment at this stage because CL qualification is very much in our hands so late in the season. But when we were actually in the competition next season it would be a right laugh. its moot anyway because we are going to qualify for the Champions League. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8730 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago I do agree that from a games perspective Europa league would be a lot of fun, and that we should fancy ourselves as having a good shot at it. It's just that the extra load of games with a squad that we can't bolster as much with Europa vs. Champion's League stretches us even further and dampens our chances of subsequent qualification (like us last season). All said and done Europa is still highly desirable it would just be frustrating to miss out on Champion's League from here. It's more than a bit miserable to think like this but sadly that's what PSR, FFP, FSR have lead us to. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 8047 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Andrew said: I don't think anyones going to argue that the money side of the CL vs the europa league. But Holden is right, we'd go into a europa league campaign as one of the favourites to win the competition and that would be a lot of fun. I've said not so long since that it would be a disappointment at this stage because CL qualification is very much in our hands so late in the season. But when we were actually in the competition next season it would be a right laugh. its moot anyway because we are going to qualify for the Champions League. Aye. That was my thinking. The finances and squad would work itself out as we’d buy appropriately for the competition we are in. We have zero chance of winning the CL but you’re right that in terms of growth, it would be better for the club. However from a fans perspective we’d have a good shot at another trophy. I’d rather be in the CL but realistically we are probably a few years off even mounting a title challenge even with CL money. I’d happily stall a year or 2 of progress to win that cup (not guaranteed of course). The feeling of winning the league cup was great as a fan. Edited 18 hours ago by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8730 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago It's great to be having this discussion at this stage of a season. Even better with a fresh trophy in our cabinet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37886 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago We’ve won a trophy anyway and we need CL to keep progressing. Europa league would be a decent consolation but it’s not going to help much in terms of the club kicking on. The other thing is it allows another team to progress at our expense 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8730 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Alex said: We’ve won a trophy anyway and we need CL to keep progressing. Europa league would be a decent consolation but it’s not going to help much in terms of the club kicking on. The other thing is it allows another team to progress at our expense Good point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52751 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago The ref going down in the Leicester game btw. Vardy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23852 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago so ref gets a proper concussion check, but fuck the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52751 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago If he's genuinely concussed from that, he needs to stay in the house with a crash helmet on at all times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 3847 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 3 mins Cunts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 63 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Decent goal to be fair by Chelsea there. Nice to see Liverpool rest their centre midfield. Pricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 12191 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Well fuck me with a ragman's trumpet 🙄 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52751 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Plenty time yet. But shit start. We might be getting Nottingham Forest themed voodoo dolls out soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24331 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago fucking twats are on the beach aren't they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52751 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Number of times this season I've seen Liverpool go behind, got my hopes up, and they've been dismantled. It'll be just our fucking luck if they can't (be arsed to) get back into this one today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 5026 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago They basically seem to be out for a Sunday stroll Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24331 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago thoroughly unprofessional from liverpool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52751 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago I think it's twatful from Slot. They've got nothing to hold players back for, and you've got a duty to the league not to give people an easy game. Hopefully they come out and do something this half. If not then it's Forest who get to fuck all the way off in the remaining games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4495 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago As if I didn't have enough reasons to hate the scouse bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 63 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Absolutely fuck off Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7981 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago And there goes our goal difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23852 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Fucking predicting cunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10780 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago I never put faith in the scousers other than to spoil your day. It is still down to us not to make any more fuckups. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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