Kid Dynamite 9328 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 1 minute ago, Dazzler said: Even the last CL season we fucked with injuries and he turned it around as they came back and the gaps between games got bigger. He doesn’t have as much of an injury issue this time or his cheerleaders in the board room. I love Howe and I don’t want him out, but I can see cutthroat execs getting itchy trigger fingers soon. Who the hell do you replace him with though. Man Utd would replace Amorim with Howe in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 9890 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 (edited) I can see why he started Burn as it was an aerial bombardment. Hall will be in next game though…by default. Edited November 9 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28509 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 1 minute ago, Holden McGroin said: The two main problems are 1) Woltemade doesn’t suit our style 2) Howes teams can’t play this amount of games, at the level of intensity he requires. You can throw injuries to Tino etc into the mix but people saying this is the strongest squad we’ve ever had might want a rethink. Without Wissa in the team its impossible to see how we line up. Wolte IMO needs Gordon and Elanga firing to make runs. I've seen Stephen Hawkin run quicker than what Murphy and Barnes did today. Barnes started solid but close to HT and after HT he was like a ghost. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 10574 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 1 minute ago, Holden McGroin said: The two main problems are 1) Woltemade doesn’t suit our style 2) Howes teams can’t play this amount of games, at the level of intensity he requires. You can throw injuries to Tino etc into the mix but people saying this is the strongest squad we’ve ever had might want a rethink. We're only as strong as our weakest component. I love BDB but he was finished as a fullback last season. We don't really have a style in attack at the moment, so I don't think you can really say that Woltemade doesn't suit it. But I will grant that it can get too crowded in the middle when you have him, Bruno, Tonali and Joelinton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28509 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 At HT he should have taken off BDB, Bruno & Elanga. Bruno was as shite as BDB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daftarse 72 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 (edited) Eddie is going down his old route at AFC Bournemouth by persisting with out of form, out of position and past it players, that cost him his job then. Wake the f*ck up Eddie. Edited November 9 by Daftarse 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14232 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: That was shit. Bad day in the office for Howe again away from home. He left burn out to dry persisting with him at left back when he was on a yellow and getting skinned every time by his winger. The red card was so predictable. it's been a bad day in the office for every single away game this season for howe, apart from a shite belgian team. it's also been at best an average day at the office for howe at home, saved only some poor away teams. Edited November 9 by thebrokendoll 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39193 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 5 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: The problem is we don't feel like a Howe team anymore. Soft, no urgency, no fight. And it's been that way for sometime away from home. We can't just blame it on the Tino and Wissa injuries. And the fucking obsession with Burn at LB has to stop. I don't care if we have to play academy players in there. Just stop ffs Just like our last season in the CL he looks like he’s flogging his first XI too hard. Look at this from last season to see just how much Howe rotated the first team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 9890 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 Just now, wykikitoon said: Without Wissa in the team its impossible to see how we line up. Wolte IMO needs Gordon and Elanga firing to make runs. I've seen Stephen Hawkin run quicker than what Murphy and Barnes did today. Barnes started solid but close to HT and after HT he was like a ghost. The midfield don’t have control of the game either. I think this cut throat style of play over a possession based only gets you so far. Not that I’m suggesting we get rid of Howe ofc. I love the bloke. Not sure what the answer is. Maybe the players just are playing shite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 16161 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 3 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Who the hell do you replace him with though. Man Utd would replace Amorim with Howe in a heartbeat If Howe left tonight I’d throw whatever money Bournemouth wanted for Iraola. Not convinced he’d come because I reckon if Slot keeps losing the plot then Liverpool might start sniffing. Saudis will throw money at Benfica for Jose and completely fuck us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14232 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 4 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Who the hell do you replace him with though. Man Utd would replace Amorim with Howe in a heartbeat le bris. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 414 Posted November 9 Author Share Posted November 9 It's easy to overreact after another dismal performance & I'm going to. Howe is in trouble if he can't turn this form round. Not talking about immediate sacking but the end of the season. He is making terrible in game decisions & continually sticking with the same players despite changes required. Players are making awful individual errors, compounding the blunt team performance in general. Botman - totally asleep. Shocking for that goal. Pope needs to be dropped for Ramsdale. He makes a fair few saves but milks how difficult they are in my opinion. The distribution from the back invites constant pressure, even more so when we have a blunt and useless front 3 at the moment. Burn is not a left back. Hall needs to come back in. Then Eddie's call on whether it's Schar, Botman or Burn to partner Thiaw. Trippier is a quality influence but shot as an attacking force. The most dynamic midfield 3 in the league (apparently) has lost it's dynamism. Don't press as a trio anymore and they have nothing in front of them to give and go on. Joelinton has been awful for a couple of months now. He's carrying an injury in my opinion. Tonali was very poor today. Trying too many Hollywood flicked balls & couldn't retain possession. Usually sublime... The front 3 is a huge worry. Barnes is lethal in front of goal but other than that offers nothing. Not a threat at all and pedestrian. Murphy is exactly the same the other side. We cannot afford both to be like that when Nick is not a conventional all out attacking number 9. Gordon has been abysmal all season. Think he's jealous Isak got his move because he's only playing well for England at the moment. Elanga is not fit for this system. Howe needs to change the approach anyway as we are too easy to play against & that will benefit Elanga. If not, I really worry about him. Howe's lack of changes in game is a serious concern. I don't understand how everyone of us can see what's going to happen but he seems stubborn & loyal to those out there. I do think this changes when tino, hall & wissa are back in full flow but the inability to grind a result or adapt away from home, highlights limitations on how far this group of players can actually go. Would throw a concern with the manager too if he doesn't come out of this horrendous spell. It's also worth noting we've been shit since April time in my opinion. Fluked a point at Brighton, lucky to beat Chelsea at home (dominated us with 10 men) and spawned champions league qualification after losing at home to Everton. In the league we've beaten Ipswich and Chelsea (both 10 men), wolves, forest and Fulham since the 17th of April. It's absolutely fucking awful to be honest. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1919 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 4 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: 3pts off 19th 6pts off 5th. We've been absolutely shite, and something needs to change but it's not unsalvageable. Not yet a 1/3rd into the season. I think our full back issue is our biggest problem. Lack of pace and attacking ability from FB means our midfield gets overran as there's no one to support it which in turn then means our attack isn't supported by our midfield. We just don't have that ability to change pace at the minute without Hall and Tino. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4938 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 Pope needs dropping for a while, his fucking major psychological need to punch the ball is costing us constantly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12368 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 9 minutes ago, Alex said: I’m not saying Howe should be sacked, but the way modern football is, he’s probably not a kick up the arse away from it happening. Two or three more bad results maybe. I have faith in his ability to turn things around but we’ve never really been in this territory with the owners before since Howe was appointed Agreed. And the potential impatience of the owners concerns me. If Howe goes, who comes in?! There’s a fuckload of work to do with an existing squad of players - something we know Howe is exceptional at. If he can’t get a tune out of this lot, who can? The players really need to be looking at themselves. They looked disinterested second half. That’s not good enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 5996 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 Over to you Eddie. Shite as a team, shite as individuals tonight. Again. Your big players and the ones you used to rely on have decided to hide again. We need another reset and fast. It's not like we've come up against great teams either. West ham were poor and so were those for large parts but we've made sure our game fell down to the appropriate level to get battered each time. Abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 10574 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 I hope someone asks him the question as plain as day - Why did you leave Dan Burn out there when he was on a yellow and continually being terrorised, and even more so after he got away with what was a clear penalty? I'm genuinely interested in how he would answer that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 9890 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 (edited) 6 minutes ago, OTF said: We're only as strong as our weakest component. I love BDB but he was finished as a fullback last season. We don't really have a style in attack at the moment, so I don't think you can really say that Woltemade doesn't suit it. But I will grant that it can get too crowded in the middle when you have him, Bruno, Tonali and Joelinton. If a team offers nothing in behind they’ll just compress the space. So either you have to play wingers really high up (Bayern style) with midfield controlling the game (and Woltemade linking the play) or teams will just suffocate us. Edited November 9 by Holden McGroin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 5996 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 (edited) Our owners haven't moved fast on anything so far man, for good or worse why do people think they will take a knee jerk reaction on Howe. I don't see it happening unless we keep this up well into the new year. Edited November 9 by aimaad22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 10574 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 14 minutes ago, beatty said: Slow, cumbersome and overconfident. What does your dating profile have to do with it? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27764 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 4 minutes ago, Dazzler said: Saudis will throw money at Benfica for Jose and completely fuck us. What makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 5996 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 2 minutes ago, OTF said: I hope someone asks him the question as plain as day - Why did you leave Dan Burn out there when he was on a yellow and continually being terrorised, and even more so after he got away with what was a clear penalty? I'm genuinely interested in how he would answer that. Something about him being tall I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 9002 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 6 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: At HT he should have taken off BDB, Bruno & Elanga. Bruno was as shite as BDB. Taken Elanga off before he subbed him on? That’s some 4D shizzle. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 5996 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 1 minute ago, OTF said: What does your dating profile have to do with it? Or sisters evaluation of his performance in bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 9890 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 (edited) No chance of them firing Howe soon. I think we might get some of the mongs turning if we get beat off Sunderland (which looks pretty likely). Edited November 9 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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