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"Naive" again. Man I hear that a lot on here, always makes me smile a bit given how things tend to go. Alright man, I surrender to your superior knowledge of the inner workings of the Iranian state and its motivations.

For all it's faults Israel is a democracy. Why don't you trust them with nuclear weapons, they literally have them and don't use them. I think you're being a bit naive on the Iranian government here. They haven't destroyed Israel because they are impotent. I don't want that to change. They will never be allies of the west as they are fundamentally opposed to western liberal democracy as a concept.

Howay, Iran has been fighting proxy wars and supporting terrorist groups for decades. They are a brutal authoritarian state that oppress their own people mercilessly. They also supply Russia with drones to kill Ukrainian civilians. Israel has never used nuclear weapons when they probably could have. Iran might be responsible custodians of a nuclear arsenal but erm, no thanks, I'd rather not have that risk. Not to say what has happened is right. It's not, and as you say is counterproductive.

If you honestly think Iran would nuke Israel and completely ensure its total annihilation in the process, I can't help you. I find the level of fear we all have about Islamic countries to be utterly insane given that we are the ones who have persecuted them up and down through history, for the past 200 years. I'd trust Iran with a nuke far more than Israel.

Well, there's only 2 instances of their use of course, both morally and ethically debatable and both from the US when they were "the good guys". I don't think any theocracy has successfully developed nukes before so your point is moot. None of Pakistan, India or Israel are outright theocracies, although the influence of religion is still a concern with these countries. But I know enough about Iran's government of Ayatollahs and Karmenai that I'd be very concerned were they to have the power to preemptively use fission bombs on Israel. Their stated unambiguous aim is the destruction of the zion state. Their Houthi allies which the mackems think are great lads literally have this written on their flag.

I wonder how it even happens. You reckon that these people get into office, finally understand how everything works and then think to themselves that they're simply too small to upset that many applecarts all at once?

Yeah that's what further lopsided, can anyone remember the last time Iran invaded another country? What's the count for the US and Israel again? I mean by all means get rid of nukes and then bomb the lone fecker that refuses to do it. You can't pick and choose. Especially when the only country that has nuked a civilian population and another one that refuses to sign the NPT and has undeclared nukes are telling others that they're the unstable ones

I'd still fully support it. Not seen anything that makes me think the religious are more uniquely predisposed to widespread brutality and catastrophe than anyone else. Indeed money and oil seem to be stronger drivers.

Useless BBC, spelled Sunderland wrong

Just back from a weekend in Hunstanton. Who needs pintxos in San Sebastian when you can be watching a ropey ABBA tribute band on an open-air stage in Sunny Hunny?

Erm, no. A nuclear armed Iran would be an existential threat for all of us with their connections with the Houthi, Hezbollah, and Hamas etc. WMD and religious zealotry are a bad combination. And yes, I am certainly including the US rapture crew in this, but we're a bit late there. The answer surprisingly was diplomacy. But now that has well and truly been shown to be a sham where Trump and the US are concerned, not to mention Israel who are now brazen liars not to be trusted. So Iran will be hell bent on getting nukes now regardless of the consequences.

It is indeed, no doubts there. I'd fully support a nuclear armed Iran tbh, it's the only way they can ensure they aren't fucked with.

I do find the Iranian theocratic government abhorrent but I don't disagree with what you say here. Iran is not at fault here. Definitely getting shades of this.

Invariably, long term it will produce more insurgency, Israel will never sleep at peace. And the US has destroyed whatever little credibility it had left, other nations will push for arms from China and we will all live in a much more dangerous world. Who knew arming and funding a genocidal maniac in the middle east could have resulted in this? Iran signed a deal that Trump tore up. Then they were negotiating with the US when Israel struck. Then they were negotiating with Europe when the US struck but they're the bad guys in all this supposedly. And look at the posturing from Israel and US too btw, "we've struck your nuclear facilities but now YOU must negotiate for peace or die" I mean ok This is nothing but modern colonialism and imperialism and eventually it will meet the same fate that all empires do.

That went a long time ago.

Uh oh, Wykiki is riled again.... "So I decided to treat t'missus, Brenda, to a fancy night away. You know, break the routine. So I booked us into this swanky hotel, cost me a princely £360 for one night! Three hundred and sixty quid! I nearly had a heart attack just typing in me card details. Brenda, mind, she was buzzing, all excited about the 'luxury experience,' as she called it. I was just hoping they had decent tea bags, not them flimsy ones that tear as soon as you look at 'em. T'room was grand, I'll give 'em that. Plush carpets, a bed you could get lost in, and even tiny bottles of shampoo that smelled like a French perfume shop. We had a decent enough evening, even if I felt a bit out of place even in me best trousers. Come morning, we head down for breakfast. Now, I'm a full English man, me. Bacon, sausages, black pudding, the lot. You can keep your English tapas muck Fish. Brenda, though, she gets all high and mighty. "Oh, I'll just have a latte, darling," she says, all prim and proper to the waitress. I just grunted, thinking, 'it's just a coffee, Brenda, not a royal decree.' We finished up, and I was just about to head off to find me car when the waitress comes over with a little slip of paper. "Your invoice, sir," she says, all smiles. I took it, thinking it was just a confirmation of the room, you know. Then I saw it. Right there, staring me in the face, plain as day: "Latte: £4.50." Four pounds fifty pence! For a bleeding cup of milky coffee! I tell you what, me blood pressure shot up faster than Wiggins on steroids. My feathers were properly spiraling, I can tell you. I felt like I'd been mugged in broad daylight, but with a silver spoon and a polite smile. I paid it, of course, because Brenda was giving me the 'don't make a scene' look. But as soon as we were in the car, I let rip. "Four pounds fifty! For a latte! I could buy a whole sack of t'Yorkshire Tea for that! It's an absolute disgrace, Brenda, a robbery in plain sight!" Four pounds fifty though. I'll never get over it. Never. CUNTS.

I’ve never been impressed but he has previously been called up to England and both Slot and Klopp seemed to rate him so there must be a player in there somewhere. They have a buy back option as well.

I don't think that saves him from the accusation tbh. He's taking a stance because of his office, fine, I can understand it rationally, but his soul remains sold.

In fairness you can hardly expect the Prime Minister to say anything different.

Funny how often we get to call him that. Maybe the right are correct, maybe they really are all the same.

Wykiki dispelling the myth that Yorkshiremen are tight by coughing up £360 for a hotel room before quickly restoring it by complaining about paying for a coffee

Russia will be happy as it'll push up the price of oil, just the financial injection their economy desperately needed.