Kitman

You can't be that naive? It's a very carefully planned call to all the big clubs to get their bids ready He's said this before and so's Pardew iirc. So what? He's a stupid twat, we all know it already. But at least quote him directly.

Baggio already started a thread on this. Incidentally he's not actually said players WILL be sold. He's said we'll lose one or two faces, it's not the same thing at all. We've got at least 2 players whose contracts will expire, Smith and Lovenkrands. What he says about Tiote is alarming, but again he's not saying he WILL be sold, he's saying he may have to be sold if a big club comes in with the right offer.

It's certainly true our bench isn't strong enough. Our squad is already small imo but not good enough, there isn't enough competition for certain places, particularly in defence. Not sure we could afford decent back up to all our first teamers mind you.

It didn't need saying that everyone's for sale at the right price. Wish he'd keep his trap shut tbh.

I now avoid any film with Cage in it. He's turned into a parody of himself. Apparently Ghostrider was particularly bad but nearly every film of his looks like a turkey these days

Aye, but a fair whack of those losses where down to him creating the instability that saw us relegated, and the rest he inherited on the back of not undertaking Due diligence? Don't see why the supporters should cover his mistakes I think he's entitled to get his loan money back at some point but I'd prefer it not to be at the expense of the team. This summer could be pivotal in that sense imo

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As no doubt a certain *ahem* rotund former shareholder figured out Thanks for the info Matt, more interesting than HF's fecking graphs

Ye Gods, 51 years old and he's only managed to spell 2 words out of 6 spelt correctly. And one of them is 'a'.........

He doesn't have to sell his shares anyway- he can just pay a dividend out and get a return that way. Either way, he'll only really get his cash back when the club is eventually sold. At that point the loan is irrelevant. It's the same choice between buying a wallet for £50 or the same wallet for £100, but it's already stuffed with £50 in notes. Same deal. Yeah, you're right, I wasn't thinking about dividends. I suppose there's a limit on what dividend you could pay if the company's making losses....

But the loans are interest free aren't they Matt? So isn't this really about getting your money out easily? Or do you think he will charge interest in the future? In any event I assume charging interest on shareholder debt would only make sense if the recipient of the interest is either in tax losses (or can access them) or is sitting in a tax haven (otherwise in an overall sense you've just transferrred tax to your parent co). If it's the latter I assume they'd have to pay withholding tax on interest payments anyway? And I vaguely recall you don't get anywhere with offshore companies these days if the ultimate owner is UK resident (which is why the likes of Philp Green are resident in Monaco). Hey ho. It's been years since I looked at UK tax.....

How is it tax efficient Matt? If there's a simple explanation...... Tax efficient or not, at some point he is going to want that money back and I'd wager NUFC will pay a high price when he does. Lending the money means he doesn't have to sell his shares to get his money back. As a fan I'd far rather he got paid back when he sells up and the money go to fund the team instead. But he's obviously entitled to have his money back at the end of the day, he gave it to the club to fund its operating losses in the first place.

indeed; from a 51 year old Blyth based Mackem. i'd have mentioned it sooner but it took a while to decode the spelling errors Dear me . Did it start "I see you have still had no luck catching me....?"

Probably a bunch of little pricks who can't take their drink. They'll no doubt end up with lifetime bans like the lad who sprayed where the sign used to be. It's a shame we couldn't be classy like the mackems and invade the pitch, assault opposition players, smash up a metro and smear the bogs walls with shit. That's what classy fans do... Or assault stewards, or tell lies at press conferences, or make death threats to the opposition manager or send threats by email as i've had since my post the other day....... Really? Idiots. Ironic really given the central message of your post. The truth obviously hurts.

How is it tax efficient Matt? If there's a simple explanation......

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I expect they have to spread the income over the 3 years i.e. you only book revenue for a particular season to the profit and loss account for that year

He has tried to educate you, and others like you, on this for years. When is YOUR man Ashley going to match the height of goal kicks under the previous owners? When will YOU, and others like you here and on N-O, admit that the current regime will never live up to the goal kick achievements of "Fat Fred"? Where is the "plan" to address this that YOU and the Anyone but Fred supporters said was so easy that any fool could do it? He has pointed this out for years and still you cannot see it. You couldn't make it up. YOU haven't answered my question chum. I've been saying these things for years but the grey man and the financial whizz kid still don't get it. YOU don't get the 14th highest goal kicks by selling YOUR best players and all the money going to Ashley's pocket. I'll answer your post when you put money on Krul not reaching the same goal kick height under Ashley than we saw under Shepherd. You complete shambles of a man. YOU said that the club could match the goal kicking achievements of "Fat Fred" with a "plan". Where is this plan? Where is the DoF now? Where did Spurs get with the DoF? Why are we now competing with Norwich, Wolves and Bolton for goal kicks? Why don't YOU answer my question at post #1305? Under "Fat Fred" we had the fourth best goalkeeper in the history of the football elague. How does YOUR man compare? As usual you have nothing to say. I don't know why I waste my time with you, the accountant and the Grey Man. You couldn't make it up.

Yes, cheerio thanks for everything

If that's right I suppose the good news would be that revenue will grow again on the back of that new deal. Plus we must be on the telly more these days. If Ashley stopped antagonising the fan base they might do a bit better mind

He has tried to educate you, and others like you, on this for years. When is YOUR man Ashley going to match the height of goal kicks under the previous owners? When will YOU, and others like you here and on N-O, admit that the current regime will never live up to the goal kick achievements of "Fat Fred"? Where is the "plan" to address this that YOU and the Anyone but Fred supporters said was so easy that any fool could do it? He has pointed this out for years and still you cannot see it. You couldn't make it up.