Kitman

Somebody call the cops! Sounds like someone's been going down the casino with a hold-all stuffed with cash, and going home with bugger all

Im not sure how this whole thing works? If the plan is, as has been intimated, to reduce the losses year on year and break even in 5 years then how are people thinking we will be debt free? Seeing as we were £111m in debt to Ashley plus a £20m overdraft at the end of the 08/09 season and we allegedly lost £32.5m in 09/10 then that would put us currently £162.5m in debt. If the plan is to reduce the losses to £28m this coming season then we'll be £200m in the red. At the end of year 2 it'll be £222m, year 3 will be £238m and 4 about £245m, so by the time we break even we'll be sitting on a debt of around £250m. How is that financially stable? We'll not be debt free, we'll have bigger debts than those that took Portsmouth out however we could well be a league or two down on their position at the time. How we going to lose money though??? I can't get me head round it. Forget the debt now to Ashley, HOW THE FUCK ARE WE GONNA LOSE MONEY. The wage is reportedly 35-40m now and that's believable. Our turnover will be 90-£100m. So some explain to me how we'll make a loss? The fuckin pies in the stadium don't cost £60m, nor do the gormless twats in the Ladbrokes kiosks. Someone in basic terms show me how we'll lose money in 2010/2011. or 2011/2012. indeed. I wonder what the accountants etc will say that are currently defending this bollocks will say in a few years time when it becomes clear we [ie us the supporters who are the ones putting money into the club] are being taken completely to the cleaners. You don't have to be a financial wizard to look at our gates and support and seriously question the crap coming out of the club. Indeed. I just don't get this bank manager mentality that some people have. They're not running the club FFS! As long as we're not being reckless why pore over the balance sheet? In football you have to invest or you'll be left far behind by your competitors. The only question is how much you spend, balancing ambition against what you can afford. The need to spend is obvious to most people, and as one of the best supported clubs in the country we should be able to afford more than the likes of Stoke and Bolton. But apparently not.

That money's long gone.

The thing that always gets me is NUFC's recent history, the last 10 years or so, is the persistence to take a punt on fuckwits and crocks. Bowyer, Barton, Smith, Viduka, Woodgate and Bellamy (although he was a great player for us) even Carr, Dyer (we kept him when we should have sold him) and Owen. They all had histories with loads of baggage and yet someone obviously thought, fuck it the fresh NE air will obviously clear their minds/attitudes/injuries let's sign them and pay them a kings ransom to sit in our treatment room or the local nick. I realise anyone can turn out to be a crock or trouble but why the hell sign someone that already has that history? I think sometimes we've had to gamble on heed-the-balls and crocks to get the quality we wanted. Gambles which by and large haven't paid off. In fact Barton's been both a crock and trouble, yet we stil hope and pray he'll come good 'cos there's no-one else. tbf I don't think Dyer had a bad injury record when we signed him from Ipswich. Take your point though.

and yee dee stand up.... Fulham didn't go for it enough last night. Chance of a life time against an ordinary side I thought, and the reigns were very much in, sometimes you have to go for it. Zamora's injury didn't help, but a great achievement getting there all the same. Shame Fulham didn't go all the way but they can be proud of what they achieved in the competition. Capello let it slip the other day that Zamora has been playing on injections. If only..... Hodgson manager of the season for me. Now if we could get someone like that... Only if we can meet his salary expectations. If he's happy with a package of 75k a year, a golden hello of 2 (yes 2!) badminton racquets (shuttlecock not included), an NUFC track suit, and a win bonus of a meal for two at the Bernie Inn*, then he's in! * subject to availability, terms and conditions apply, alcohol not included

and yee dee stand up.... Fulham didn't go for it enough last night. Chance of a life time against an ordinary side I thought, and the reigns were very much in, sometimes you have to go for it. Zamora's injury didn't help, but a great achievement getting there all the same. Shame Fulham didn't go all the way but they can be proud of what they achieved in the competition.

Are the British press and pundits waxing lyrical about lack of stability, not giving the manager enough time, too many transfers of players, too much money spent etc etc? I seem to recall they were very good at handing out advice regarding us.....

Bloody Hell Kitman, it's breakfast time over here man! Have another sausage, mate!

And there he is now......

It's difficult to imagine us shelling out for the better players. Or anyone over 25, on high wages, and with no sell on value. In fact it's hard to imagine us shelling out for anyone.

He'd better hope the Japanese aren't in the area on one of their 'scientific' expeditions

Apparently Carr was rushed back too soon time and again by our management. Viduka, on the other hand, might just be injury prone. Being fat, old and lazy might also have something to do with it

Noted, thanks Don't you mean filed under B?

Depends how desperate they are.

Noted, thanks

I wonder if Carragher will huff off again if Capello brings him on at RB in one of the warm-up games. He'll get himself sent off. Would be a golden opportunity to go through his teammates' belongings

Yes, but think how much of the debt we'll have paid off [/N-O] They must be wannabe bank managers. Personally I couldn't care less, unless we're about to go the way of Portsmouth (and I'd gladly take an FA Cup trophy on the way down, thank you).

I agree Chez. This is the frustrating thing - for a comparatively modest outlay we could be something. As it is we'll just have to hope that Haris Vukcic is new Pele and the next Torres is lurking in that Academy 'brimming with talent'. I just don't understand the notion that there won't be speculation on players. Unless you've already got comings and goings in mind, why declare you'll spend nothing? the one thing I am hoping for is that this message follows on from so many others do, in that it's just a pack of lies. All they've done is lie to the press so no change there. I still think there will be some modest cash available for Hughton to buy one or two players, which is basically what he's been saying up to now, plus whatever he brings in via sales. But that's just based on blind optimism really, the statement suggests otherwise I know.

I thought Kewell was injured yet again?

I agree Chez. This is the frustrating thing - for a comparatively modest outlay we could be something. As it is we'll just have to hope that Haris Vukcic is new Pele and the next Torres is lurking in that Academy 'brimming with talent'.

We're weak for the PL in midfield and upfront. Let's see who they bring in but I wouldn't be optimistic for the season based on the Acca's 'spine'. We lack the pace in midfield and upfront to catch teams on the break, bar Routledge (I'm assuming Guti would be unable to do anything with the ball even if he dribbled the length of the pitch). We also lack invention to break teams down.

The thought of the likes of the DUP or SNP holding the balance of power is mildly amusing. I've enjoyed the absence of Peter Robinson and Alex Salmond amongst others from my TV since I emigrated.

Grant sounds like he enjoys female company. Maybe the porn barons could tempt him with a few "extras" thrown in?

"Yah....as ve say in my country ve must see der onion bag bulge! Otherwise is not acceptable! To lose is most irregular, is not gut. Ve play to win, yah!" * Slaps both thighs and gives a loud belly laugh *

Carroll will be absolutely essential given our entire attacking strategy will consist of lunking it up early to the big lad, in the hope that Nolan will trundle on to the knock downs. If we can recruit Rory Delap, we could add long throw to the big lad to the strategy and be merely two dimensional.