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It's like having Souness and Roeder all over again!

But then as soon as results went against us, certain people would bang their fists on the table and moan that "he's not good enough", "He hasn't got a proven track record" etc. As I've stated a numbe of times earlier, Allardyce was a great signing for fat Freddy, he's the wrong man for Mort and Laura. Big Chris, find your replacement, have them sign the contract and then get fucking rid (move upstairs) of Allardyce!

Come on you old cunt, where's my bike?!??

And see we thought all that was behind us didn't we?

How the hell do you know for certain that Ashley will spend Abramovich style money on the squad? Nobody knows that Sammy, probably not even Chris Mort. Sure Ashley is rich but that does not equate to us spending like Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester Utd. Fish is right, people's expectations are so off the planet it is a joke. I'm no fan of the way the team is playing atm, but ffs we are 9th, and when you consider the squad of players we have this season, 9th is actually good. The teams above us deserve to be above us quite frankly because they have better squads. There are one or two below us who arguably have better squads than us as well. The team is playing ugly. There's no doubt about that and it is our luck that Derby decided to play with a bit of determination and flamboyancy that flustered the side. It was a shame Alan Smith didn't pick up a yellow card to give him a "rest" in our next game because obviously Allardyce will refuse to drop him, David Rozenhal is weak and not up for Premiership football, we have no pace at all except for N'Zogbia, Martins' control is pathetic but there aren't any other options atm, there is nothing on the right hand side by way of pace except for Beye who is playing well enough but the team has too many grafters in it. The fact Derby outplayed us shows how inept our midfield is atm, and for Allardyce to say we outplayed Derby is completely daft. To think Nicky Butt is one of our best shows how shit we are as a squad of players. That is the reality of the situation. Allardyce needs to bring in players. It's that simple. He needs to bring in some pace. At the very least an AM, and striker that can spark the side a little. If he does not do this, or more importantly isn't allowed to do this in January, then his future is sealed and he will be sacked at the end of the season imo. One positive about last night was the return of Duff. If he can stay injury free, then N'Zogbia at LB and Duff at LM could be a very dangerous proposition for opposing teams the remainder of this season. That, Beye's form and Viduka saving our arses were the only positives out of a very forgettable game. Ken, you're right I don't know. But you can bet your last dollar he didn't Newcastle to turn us into Bolton. And I disagree with all this talk about us having a below average squad. Out of the fit players we had yesterday how can anyone argue that a team of: shay beye taylor/roz cacapa enrique milner barton/butt emre n'zogbia martins viduka Playing 4-4-2 with a bench of roz/taylor barton/butt duff smith harper should even consider a draw with derby an acceptable outcome. How can people not see, we have the players that are capable for better than what is being served up. Insisting on playing Smith Barton Butt and Geremi in the one team is a joke. Roz isn't as bad as people make out, any defender is going to be massacred if they don't have a midfield in front of them. Besides one bad game against Liverpool and it's not as Enrique was the only one at fault that day, what the fuck has he done wrong to be 2nd choice behind a LM playing LB? Those that want to support Allardyce keep pointing to our "weak" squad, but fucking hell it's not weak, Souness and Roeder had less to work with numbers wise. What is weak is the team the manager constantly keeps putting on the pitch.

That expectation is massively out of synch with reality. and therein lies the problem. What crap Dave. And it's not the average supporters expectation, its Mort's and Ashley's and that is why Allardyce isn't the man for the job. He knows deep down it's above him and his current starting line-ups/formations/substitutions aren't what any sane man would do. edit: by the way there is no mention of top 4, 6 or 10 because those expectation aren't what it is about, it's about building the team to be competitive and challenging for those positions in near the future, something he's not show any signs of as well.

Sorry Skol but that argument carries no weight. The flaw in your argument is Souness, a manager with a history of winning things. People lose their way, for whatever reason or succeed in one place but fail in another although the role is basically the same. Allardyce is just another example of how someone might work in one club but is totally out of his depth at another.

Nah lets keep Allardyce !!! Lets sit back and watch what years 3,4,5 and 6 of the Souness régime would have been like. Jimbo man, I appreciate a lot of what you say, but you've proven over the last three managers you're the first to call for their heads. While you've been a decent judge of character for the first two (not that it would take a fucking genius) but you're being far far to presumptious in your assesment here. If you Honestly HONESTLY think that Allardyce is as bad a amanger as Souness (despite taking Bolton to European competion over time, playing effective football and doing it all no a smaller budget) then I guess there's no changing your mind. But if that's what you honestly believe then I wonder what football you expect from a mid-table club like Newcastle United, because face facts, we're lgiht years off the top four, we're a good three or four quality signings off the following pack of four. Right now, 9th place, that is where Newcastle United belongs right now. If you're wistfully wishing for European football or football of grace and style we see when we reminisce about a decade ago, then you really need to reassess. We're not there anymore, we're miles from it. Perhaps you're right, perhaps my expectations are too high. But as I've said in previous posts, I'm not too disapointed with the league position, I'm disapointed with performances, tactics, morale, substitutions, team selection, to name but a few, whilst I may be playing "mystic Jimbo" but I don't believe Allardyce is the man to take us further, and time will either prove me right or wrong, if Allardyce is given time. I think we are very very fortunate that the likes of Portsmouth, Villa, Blackburn etc have had a mini slump whilst we have picked up some rather jammy points, if not we could be looking at the table in a very different light. QFT. Both skol and fish to answer your posts here and in the Allardyce out thread, to back up jimbo further I'll quote my last post in the v fulham match and from the discussion with Happy Face.

Sorry Dave, got a lot of time for a lot of things you say but I've fixed your post to how it should read and then once you've re-read it please reassess your position.

Giving thanks by offering myself to the pagan god of beer and swimming pools.

The other thing that scares me, Emre has become our match winner in the eyes of many of our supporters.

If you're getting at what I think you're getting at, I think you mean Propellerheads with Shirley Bassey It was to jimbo (and Dr), thank you. Either way Allardyce is still a useless twat.

Four points instead, Allardyce out. A team that finished 13th last season should be pushing to break into the top four now within five months of the new season whilst playing fluent, attacking, one-touch, free-flowing football. This isn't anywhere near the same team nor the same manager or backroom staff. Fuck off you stupid cunt. Proving my point that we are better than last season. Ta. Unlike Rico, I won't call you a stupid cunt but seriously man, have a word with yourself and watch the shite that is being served up week in week out. Go on, you know you want to. Rico, it's Christmas time, at least call them a quim or a clunge!

Fuck off you bastids that's my catchphrase It really was a matter of normal service resumed today after the Arsenal blip. Yes so what the team ended up with the points and absolutely battered their goal for the last 15 minutes of the first half, it doesn't make up for the lacklustre effort the rest of the match and the fucking pityful tactics and substitutions. Why does it take the team so long to start both from the initial kick-off and then after half time. Why do we insist on humping it long to forwards that just don't play that way and inevitably we get caught when it gets humped straight back at us and we fall over ourselves to let them score. Why the fuck wasn't Smith subbed ten minutes into the second half when he'd disappeared from the game completely and it was obvious their 5 in the midfield was butt fucking our 3 everytime. Why can't professional footballers actually make 5 to 10 yard passes to their own players. How long will it be before other teams realise that if you just shut down our left side we're fucked because we have no right side and our centre midfield are just a bunch of plodders. It's there for the world to see and yet 3 lucky points against relegation fodder and 1 point against a 3rd choice Arsenal midfield and we're heading in the right direction again. There has to be a better way. What was that Chemical Brothers song with Shirley Bassey?

By the way, that fat aussie bastid is useless anarl!

Four points instead, Allardyce out. A team that finished 13th last season should be pushing to break into the top four now within five months of the new season whilst playing fluent, attacking, one-touch, free-flowing football. This isn't anywhere near the same team nor the same manager or backroom staff. Fuck off you stupid cunt. Proving my point that we are better than last season. Ta. Unlike Rico, I won't call you a stupid cunt but seriously man, have a word with yourself and watch the shite that is being served up week in week out.

Sorry Craig but bullshite. People stated if we can't get a decent manager, let Roeder do the job until the summer when we can get a better manager. The way history is constantly being twisted is getting beyond a joke. All this "we'll be the laughing stock if we get rid of him now!" Well fuck me, we already are. Because today was a school day for me I chose to tape the match and watch it this morning before work but when I checked my phone, before I even watched the match at 6am this morning, I had messages from mates telling me how great our team's performance was against Derby. Derby for fuck sake, the team that is going to break the mackem's record for the least number of points. Where was Smith playing, where was Oba playing, why do we not have a midfield, why does the defence get anally raped everytime there is a long ball over the top, what is Barton's role, do we have a right midfielder in the club???? Simple fucking stuff to professional footballers I would of thought, obviously fucking not.

You think? Last Saturday proved one thing, our manager is as shite as their's was and we've still got ours. I'd hope that Mort would have the replacement lined up, to help him carry his things out to the cab (as he'd be leaving his company car), before we moved Allardyce on but the penny's going to drop eventually.

Fuck the tabloids must be so disappointed that bumble, Dire, Penas and the rest of the spit boys are no longer with us.

So you're a closet Hibby supporter as well Brock?

I've always had a bit of a soft spot for QPR, probably the Sir Les association, but if this fucker turns them into another chelsea I can see me losing it very quickly.

What the fuck is wrong with you people! There were a host of fit indie band chicks around at the same time that should of grabbed your attention, plus some of us were to busy wanting to plant one in the lead singer of the cardigans!

Well beware the 'mericans, they won the war(s) you know

She was on the wane from the moment bellend left the club, iirc. In the end all she contributed was to the random conversation thread, which often to her was any thread she chose to write in!

But if it protrudes out of the collar of your shirt, it doesn't really count