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Definitely not an "in the know" but based on common sense (owen's thankfully not newcastle's) I can't see him going to a club that isn't the "big 4" or man city. I don't think Villa is a big enough step up from us (although I would much rather be in their position than ours) for it to be worth Owen uprooting at this stage of his career, and if O'Neill is happy with the way his team play, I don't see the point of getting Owen instead of a big strong striker So out of the 5 clubs I think he'd leave us for (or I guess he could try the continental life again) arsenal - he's not better than van persie and adebayor, and isn't a wenger type of player. Wenger may be after experience, but thats more for the centre of midfield or defence man utd - better than tevez/rooney/berbatov - no! liverpool - possible, maybe as a cheap replacement if they had to sell torres/keane if these financial problems aren't the usual newspaper bollocks. chelsea - regardless of what the papers say it will not happen. they've already got 2 strikers who can't play 442, and anelka is close to the form of his life. unless scolari really wants to play 442 and gives up on the anelka/drogba partnership it seems a pointless move man city - only realistic option in the premier league. they are definitely short a decent striker, and can afford him. if they get a european manager, they'll probably go to europe for a striker, but if hughes is in charge I can see him going for owen. only thing with man city is if they've got so much money, is there any need to go the cut-price route? I actually think that, as long as he isn't forced out of the club, Owen will definitely stay this January sign a contract, and give us till next january, and either a chance to recoup a decent transfer fee, or stay with us for the rest of his career... Obviously if we get relegated then

seems like the guy was either a scout, or copied it from 442 magazine based on a couple of other topics that refer to it. Quite an interesting retrospective look methinks there's chopra, collocini, and viana with newcastle careers... not sure what makes me more, the performance of the ones who were playing or went on to play for liverpool.... or cherno samba (championship manager legend!!) http://www.redcafe.net/f15/first-draft-top...rld-list-30449/ 1. Djibril Cisse (STR, Auxerre) 2. Andres D'Allesandro (AM, River Plate) 3. Leandro Bonfim (AM, Vitoria/PSV Eindhoven) 4. Fernando Jose Torres (STR, Atletico Madrid) 5. Jermaine Pennant (R/WNG, Arsenal) 6. Rafael Van der Vaart (C/MF, Ajax) 7. Florent Sinama-Pongolle (STR, Le Havre/Liverpool) 8. Piotr Trochowski (AM, FC Bayern Munich) 9. Anthony Le Tallec (AM/CFWD, Le Havre/Liverpool) 10. Mourad Meghni (AM, Bologna) 11. Pedro Mantorras (STR, Benfica Lisbon) 12. David Odonkor (FWD, Borussia Dortmund) 13. Darren Fletcher (C/MF, Manchester United) 14. John Welsh (C/DM, Liverpool) 15. Kim Kallstrom (CM, BK Hacken) 16. Philippe Mexes (CB, Auxerre) 17. Johnny Heitinga (CB, Ajax) 18. Juan Andreu Melli (CM, Real Betis) 19. Baldo Di Gregorio (CB, Eintract Frankfurt) 20. Andres Iniesta (AM, Barcelona) 21. Milan Baros (STR, Liverpool) 22. Marius Niculae (STR, Sporting Lisbon) 23. Fabricio Coloccini (CB, Milan/on loan to Alaves) 24. Ricardo Bernardo Quaresma (L/WNG, Sporting Lisbon) 25. Maicon (RWB, Cruzeiro) 26. Hugo Viana (CM, Sporting Lisbon) 27. Arjen Robben (L/WNG, Groningen/PSV Eindhoven) 28. Julio Colombo (CB, Montpellier) 29. Gregory Vignal (LB, Liverpool) 30. Jermaine DeFoe (STR, West Ham United) 31. Gareth Barry (LB, Aston Villa) 32. Marat Izmailov (AM/FWD, Lokomotiv Moscow) 33. Hassan Yebda (DM, Auxerre) 34. Leandro Romagnoli (AM, San Lorenzo) 35. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (CFWD, Ajax) 36. Dean Ashton (CFWD, Crewe Alexandria) 37. Ednilson (AM, Benfica Lisbon) 38. Chris Kirkland (GK, Liverpool) 39. Emilliano S. Dudar (CB, Velez Sarsfield) 40. Helder Postiga (STR, Porto) 41. Ahmed 'Mido' Hossam (STR/LWNG, Ajax) 42. Joaquin Sanchez (L/WNG, Real Betis) 43. Diego Ribas (AM, Santos) 44. Jay Lucas (CFWD, Southampton) 45. Niko Kranjcar (AM/CFWD, Dinamo Zagreb) 46. Christian Petereit (RB/CB, Schalke 04) 47. Ewerthon (STR/FWD, Borussia Dortmund) 48. Gael Givet (CB/LB, Monaco) 49. Francesco Lodi (AM, Empoli/Parma) 50. Massimo Donati (DM, AC Milan) 51. Gatti Ribeiro (RWB, Blooming) 52. Jeremie Aliadiere (STR, Arsenal) 53. Francesco Tarantino (LB/CB, Athletic Bilbao) 54. Lourenco Da Silva (FWD/LWNG, Sporting Lisbon) 55. Alexander Ludwig (L/WNG, Werder Bremen) 56. Landon Donovan (STR, San Jose Earthquakes) 57. Ricardo Costa (CB, FC Porto) 58. Filip Trojan (L/WNG, Schalke 04) 59. Carlos Martins (CM, Sporting Lisbon) 60. Serhat Akin (STR, Fenerbahce) 61. Johnnier Montano (AM/FWD, Parma-on loan to Verona) 62. Mark Fotheringham (C/MF, Celtic) 63. Rubinho (GK, Corinthians) 64. Michael Chopra (STR, Newcastle) 65. Edward Johnson (STR, Dallas Burn) 66. Johnny Van Beukering (STR, Vitesse) 67. Santino Quaranta (STR, DC United) 68. Andreas Hinkel (RB/RWB, Stuttgart) 69. Bojan Djrodjic (L/WNG, Manchester United) 70. Matteo Brighi (CM, Juventus) 71. Cherno Samba (CFWD, Millwall) 72. Hassan Ahamada (LWNG/STR, Nantes) 73. Theo Janssen (LM, Vitesse) 74. Derik Boateng (AM, Panathinaikos) 75. Mauro Rosales (R/WNG, Newell's Old Boys) 76. Dulee Johnson (STR, BK Hacken) 77. Fernando Macedo Nano (L/WNG, Barcelona) 78. Michael Essien (D/MF, Bastia) 79. Andres Oliveira (STR/FWD, Perth Glory) 80. Candido Costa (AM, Porto) 81. Tuomas Aho (CB, My-Pa) 82. Dimitar Berbatov (STR, Bayer Leverkusen) 83. Thijs Houwing (CFWD, Twente) 84. Labinot Harbuzi (AM, Malmo FF) 85. Michael Zepek (CM, Bayer Leverkusen) 86. Mika Vayrynen (AM, FC Jokerit) 87. Ramon Calliste (STR, Manchester United) 88. Christoph Preuss (RWB, Eintract Frankfurt) 89. Keith Kelly (CM, PSG) 90. Aldo Jara (FWD, Cerro Portano) 91. Kieran Richardson (L/WNG, Manchester United) 92. Leonardo Santiago (L/WNG, Feyenoord) 93. Shaun Maloney(STR, Celtic) 94. Azar Karadas (CFWD/CB, Brann Bergen) 95. Kaka (AM, Sao Paulo) 96. Benjamin Auer (CFWD, Borussia M'Gladbach) 97. Daniyel Cimen (LB/CB, Eintract Frankfurt) 98. Erdal Kilicaslan (CFWD, Bayern Munich) 99. David Prutton (D/MF, Nottingham Forest) 100. Alexander Hleb (AM, Stuttgart)

Here's a CB aged 30 (arguably just a bit past his "prime") with decent prem experience and now sans club for nearly a year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Curtis_(...ller_born_1978)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Prutton could do a job on the right of midfield It was prutton we were linked with when we emerged with jenas from forest (much in the same way we had been extensively linked with darren bent, and suddenly signed darren ambrose from ipswich!!) collins john could be a sub-striker

In the week where Marco Materazzi received damages for his "racist" abuse of zidane where lip readers "carefully" analysed what he said, I'll not bet my house that the sun's lipreaders know exactly what was said. I bet the lawyers are loving it though, "hours spent studying the footage." Regardless, not sure its a particularly racist thing to say. Roughly equivalent to going up to someone with a big nose from an arab country/Israel and calling them big nose. At some point in the future, you will only be able to describe people by the clothes they wear (as long at they are not overly associated with a religion/culture) Still, Barton should be whiter than white (racist, tbh!!) and shouldn't even give the media the chance to be cunts

He's not Muslim at all. But a significant proportion of americans thought he was well into the run-up.

273 vs 141 - Washington tipped him over the 270

A muslim is now US president

keith andrews, MK Dons' finest, has just pinched a point for Blackburn against West Brom SATURDAY'S 1500 GMT GAMES Chelsea 5-0 Sunderland Man Utd 4-3 Hull City Middlesbrough 1-1 West Ham Portsmouth 1-1 Wigan Stoke City 2-0 Arsenal West Brom 2-2 Blackburn

Stoke rule Wenger to be sacked. Replaced by Phil Brown. Wenger to take on Ashley's "plan" of turning us into the new Arsenal

Phil Brown out?

I best be careful, don't want to be responsible for another Fop!! Out of interest these are the points required to finish 4th bottom since 2000/01 (42, 40, 44, 39, 34, 38, 38, 36). Not really sure what that proves, but I had a look and thought it was worth putting up. I think that results between 2 teams will contribute mainly to the relative positions of those two teams within the league, rather than significantly altering the number of points required for 4th bottom. If Stoke win today and go on a 15 game winning run, I still think the points needed for 4th bottom would be much of a muchness. I guess the only time it becomes significant would be if you have 3 teams considerably worse than the rest of the league, then one of those 3 start getting results and begins dragging the mid table back into things. Maybe you're right, but for me I'm only concerned with Newcastle's results (from a Newcastle point of view) until maybe March, then I start looking where other teams might prosper or slip up and how that will affect us. Today, I'm firmly hoping that Stoke hold on against Arsenal, mainly because its STOKE against ARSENAL

Taken from the BBC, the state of play If Massa wins in Brazil, Hamilton must finish at least fifth to be champion If Massa is second, Hamilton must finish at least seventh If Massa is third or lower, Hamilton is champion regardless of his result in Brazil Also, 123 in final practice was Alonso, Hamilton, Massa As much as I'd love to see Massa take the title, its virtually Hamilton's. I don't anticipate problems with reliability as he should be able to relatively cruise to top 5; I think even Ferrari wouldn't try anything dodgy based on the bad blood over the last 2 seasons; and the stewards will definitely not get involved as they are already being scrutinised for being too involved this season.

me too. watched it because I love charlie brooker on screenwipe. thought it would be more based on taking the piss out of big brother/society in general, but even as a standalone zombie film it was pretty damned good. I also liked the fact that it bucked the usual film style with

I'd rather he didn't after seeing some of his attempts on Tuesday. There was one where he had a team mate (probs duff) a couple of yards in front and maybe 10 yards wide, and his pass was so bad that even though it was underhit, duff couldn't keep it in.

Well, we are that bad. Who we as fans rely on for results is irrelevant anyway as it's the players that matter, but it's plain wrong-thinking to think that the points that the teams around us are picking up now will have no bearing on us come May. I see your point, but I just don't think that today's/tomorrow's/next week's etc results will make the difference. By and large there's little fluctuation in the number of points that teams need to avoid relegation (its more in the points that relegated teams have), and we'll either achieve it or we won't. All that the result between Fulham and Everton does is make Fulham a tiny bit more likely to be a team we may be battling with.... I don't think that sort of result has any relevance of whether we'll end up fighting for our lives or not.

My ITK has said that the "someone" was MvB whilst he was up in Newcastle getting an extra 5 million put onto the Milner deal. Cracking bloke

Bit early in the season to be hoping and cheering certain results based on who ought to be at the bottom with us (or whoever we're contending with for whatever positions). At this stage I'm firmly cheering on teams based on who I like/don't like, e.g. very much enjoyed stoke over the mackems, and don't think that would change till a few games to go. If we're so bad that we're relying on other teams' results, then we deserve relegation

boo-ya http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2u9h83s&s=4

what a guy http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.ph...e7d916cf1ed0e0d edit: just realised its jeff vetere, not tony.... but oh well

MvB's just been round to sort out my wireless and get it working at the advertised speed. Showed him this, and he said he'd bring round a range of his own signed flip flops. He's got some M&S vouchers in case they don't fit

really hope you didn't see this and then decide we needed the joke as well FFS http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=350782

maybe they've gathered 100 odd people to stab dennis wise.... and will all say it was ameobi and smith. currently watching through all episodes of csi las vegas, new york, and miami to make sure they'll get away with it

thanks to the people who are able to raise a smile with their jokes.... so pissed off. sums up the way we are/have been run that we can't even get rid of a manager in an efficient way haven't seen it here, so here's a link to anal's latest about the end of transfer window. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcas...72703-21655798/ main pertinent things that i haven't seen elsewhere (mind you i have been glued to this thread all afternoon!!) obviously its oliver so take a pinch/cement mixer of salt with it

good punnage