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I can't help thinking that the only times we've done well in the last decade we have gone into the season with low expectations. The probability of going into a season with high expectations and doing well seems low to me. I would therefore argue we should lower our expectations as its riskless to do so. Even the data on favorites to win the championship suggests we should revise our real expectations.

Is pastie sarnie a euphemism for going down on a mackem lass?

After 16 years of waiting, its finally out.

Voice of experience here.

Actually smells of shit that stuff.

Great food in Lyon. Good city, had some decent weekends there. Nice is full of cunts, did well.

I wonder which way LM voted in the referendum?

Tom Watson ripped to the tits at Glastonbury with Primal Scream's Come Together in the background would have been more effective.

In 10 years time, we will be living in the Britain depicted in Alfonso Cuaron's Children of Men.

I think they always have, the FT is a centrist paper and is staffed by economists who have a firm grasp of the pro's and con's of market monetarism vs fiscal policy and the relevance of the very low interest rates to this debate. Quantitative easing, the de facto policy of the world's central banks, is not a proven policy tool that was deployed based on sound theory and analysis. It is the only policy option open to central bankers who are solely charged (in the UK) with managing aggregate demand. The FT knows this is a political choice, not a conclusion based on sound economics.

Aye. Then Boris to run on an anti-establishment platform in 2025.

Labour's core vote now = online fannies who got a second class degree and a half arsed job.

Glad you asked that as it brings up 2 issues (and you are giving Unite's argument yesterday). Firstly and least importantly, the polls are wrong. We know that now. So give that measure at least a 5 to 10% error margin. Secondly, 62% of which voters? The people who voted Labour at the last election? You see the problem there, this doesnt include the lost votes. The constituency of voters at the heart of everything.

Going to get a PSG shirt with Ben Arfa on the back and post it to Gemmill so he can dry his tears of wrongness on it.

So is this logic about right? The left lost legitimacy with the core working class voters for being too elitist and ignoring concerns about immigration. Immigration was a genuine concern but exacerbated (or even driven by) post-crisis economic policies which were forcing down real wages, reducing demand and increasing unemployment UKIP was able to take large amounts of votes from traditional labour voters in traditional working class communities as they spoke to this constitution of voters more than centrist Labour OK - nothing too controversial there. Corbyn's election by the membership was a reaction of the core members to the 'failures of the past' but also importantly to the inability of centrist Labour to speak to this constituency via anti-austerity / socialist policies. The vote for Corbyn and the belief that he could possibly win an election was in no-ones mind at all about taking centrist voters from the tories. Of the 5 million voters lost, the ones lost to the new UKIP / fuck you constituency were the voters Corbyn was meant to win back. The Referendum demonstrated that the lost working class vote is still lost, no matter what Len Mcluskey says about council elections, the Labour vote in this area continues to be lost despite a year of a socialist leader. Corbyn does not win back what Labour lost in the working classes, he wins back the far left who were disenfranchised by New Labour. A very different constituency. So the second part is where you may disagree but if you do then i think Corbyn has to go. A hard left message is not getting through to the lost voters. Overall, i am happy that Corbyn has led the party as i think he has shifted the debate to the left, instilled an anti-austerity message and made the party more reflective of its socialist roots. I never expected him to fight the next election and i didnt expect him to win it if he did. My hope was that he would shift the debate and bring the party back closer to its identity. I think he has done that. So i dont see the need for him to stay on. The country will be won from the middle, with the economy essentially a centrist, regulated capitalist model, the only reforms that will benefit the working classes are those that start from the centre and work leftwards at the margin. Incremental change is the best we can hope for unless we start a revolution. That process works only from the middle and that's where the party needs to go. With a re-affirmed socialist heart.

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Just a thought but surely there should be pressure for Junker and Tusk to resign for not being able to negotiate an acceptable deal. If the EU falls apart from here, which of the EU commissioners will resign like Cameron did?

With a champagne bottle sticking out my arse.