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Gloomy, sorry mate, in This is my point, basically… I understand that FGM is a brutal mutilation, carried out primarily to establish control, ownership, etc: Circumcision seems to me to be a much more accepted form of genital mutilation, and I really struggle to see why (it’s accepted). There are clear reasons/ circumstances why you’d take circumcision as a medical option, and in those circumstances , fair play. But, otherwise, there’s really no good reason to mutilate your child’s cock, beyond believing in some fucked up shit. DON’T CUT YOUR SON’S FORESKIN OFF!

It seems Mr. Airwolf, Jan Michael Vincent, has left this mortal coil. What an average shame.

@Dr Gloom, Good on you man. I’ve got to be honest here, though, I don’t understand how you can see a difference between religious circumcision and FGM? It’s all mutilation in the name of whatever God they choose. Chopping the lips off of some poor lass, and whipping the foreskin off of an 8 day old lad is equally barbaric in my eyes. I suspect that circumcision gets away with it because in some cases, it’s an acceptable procedure - however, they use anaesthetic and its a last resort. There’s no acceptable reason to cut away a girl’s labial structures. Here’s a question though- how much do you think fear of being labelled anti-Semitic has hampered the cause of not circumcising innocent baby boys? I fully realise how this might come across. All I can say is I’m neither racist, anti-Semitic, or whatever. but I want people to stop cutting their baby’s cocks to pieces, regardless of their beliefs. Edit; Beer… lots

It’s almost as if the world would be a less barbaric, fucked up place without religious mentalism. Who’d a thunk it ? 😂

This is precisely the argument I’ve long used against it- imagine the Church of England suddenly decreeing that earlobes must removed, without anaesthetic, eight days after birth. But only for boys. The worldwide chorus of “ FUCK RIGHT OFF!” would be deafening.

That’s always puzzled me- it’s absolutely the norm, regardless of religion. Why? What do they think is the benefit?

Cheers bud. We’ll agree to disagree on the level of barbarity though- whipping off your son’s pullover without anaesthetic is just as brutal as FGM, I reckon. I’m a pretty staunch atheist, but I respect people’s right to believe in whichever sky fairy they want, but, when it means mutilating kids in the name of that sky fairy, that’s when I draw the line. Can you see the ridiculousness of outlawing FGM, but still allowing religious circumcision ? I’m assuming, of course, that as a right-thinking chap you didn’t have your laddie’s penis mutilated in the name of religion, did you?

Thought not.

@Dr Gloom Given the ( totally justified) recent outcry and change in the law regarding FGM, has been any discussion about ritual circumcision amongst UK Jews, and the wider community? If so, what is the general opinion?

Fair enough. I was out of mein kampfort zone as it was.

I’m cooking a Women’s Day meal for Mrs. F. The food isn’t really that important, I’ve just got to make sure there’s endless whine.

Did we ever sing Allardyce’s name when he was here? I can’t remeber ever hearing it, but I may have blotted it out.

Cooking on gas, here mate.

No need to Goebbelistic.

Bob Mortimer is a quiet comedy genius.

Nope.

Mrs. F has had to go in to work as her boss has arranged shit for Women’s Day on the theme of work/life balance. She’s been told she must attend. Friday is her usual day off.

We didn’t exactly roll out the welcome mat for Speed at first, though

I mean, all he wanted to do was talk about his beloved team.

Babs is looking a bit Disney…

Howdy pardner.

Very much On-the-Wall.