Ketsbaia 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 It's looking increasingly likely that we'll be under the control of Fat Ash against West Brom. This means improvements on the pitch will be small if there are any at all. With this in mind do you still want Shearer as manager? I'm personally beginning to doubt bringing him in at the moment is the best for the club. He's inexperienced and if our current situation doesn't change then I really think we need to go for someone who knows the ropes. Someone like Coppell or Curbs. They both did very good jobs with clubs on a pittance and i'd be much more confident about putting in a decent showing next season should we manage to secure one of them. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 50 cent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4242 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 No. We need experience. however the likely hood of us getting anyone decent with "experience" is nonexistent so its really a toos up between JFK and Shearer in which case it has to be Shearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6317 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I really haven't a clue anymore tbh. In all honesty, I don't think it matters who's in charge - we've pissed about so much this summer that the damage is already done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 JK: Speaking to the Irish Press at the weekend, he claimed: “Kevin Keegan and Alan Shearer, the Messiahs, got nine points between them. “When I went into hospital, we were 13th with 13 games left. Everything was going in our favour. “All the other clubs were getting beat, and we were on a great run. It was looking an absolute doddle.” “I said to Mike (Ashley), ‘let me come back’, but he said, ‘no, the club doctor spoke to the specialist, and it was too dangerous’. “What disappointed me most was that, irrespective of my health, I could have been a figurehead, so Alan could have bounced things off me. “I would have be able to help and guide him. “Alan has been a phenomenal player, but he’s never been in management or coaching.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14691 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 The best manager for the job out there without a club at the moment is undoubtedly Gordon Strachan imho. If we are bought out, and a new owner appoints someone who isn't Shearer, we as supporters really wouldn't be doing ourselves any favours by reacting in a strongly negative way.....especially with a badly spelt slogan on a bedsheet outside Shearer's bar. Maybe we need a break with the past, a completly fresh start. Appointing Shearer comes with as much negative baggage as it in many ways seems like a good idea in a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 JK: Speaking to the Irish Press at the weekend, he claimed: “Kevin Keegan and Alan Shearer, the Messiahs, got nine points between them. “When I went into hospital, we were 13th with 13 games left. Everything was going in our favour. “All the other clubs were getting beat, and we were on a great run. It was looking an absolute doddle.” “I said to Mike (Ashley), ‘let me come back’, but he said, ‘no, the club doctor spoke to the specialist, and it was too dangerous’. “What disappointed me most was that, irrespective of my health, I could have been a figurehead, so Alan could have bounced things off me. “I would have be able to help and guide him. “Alan has been a phenomenal player, but he’s never been in management or coaching.” What a fucking idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6317 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Keegan got 4 points from 3 games. (1.3 points per game) Hughton got 0 points from 3 games. (0 points per game) Kinnear got 23 points from 19 games. (1.2 points per game) Hughton & Calderwood got 2 points from 5 games. (0.4 points per game) Shearer got 5 points from 8 games. (0.625 points per game) So if we're going by stats, we should have kept Keegan - is that what you're saying Joe? What the stats don't prove however is that Kinnear presided over both the home draws to Wigan and Stoke - both of which we were winning into the last minute and either of which would have saved us from relegation. Fuck off Joe - your football is amongst the worst I have ever witnessed in nearly 30 years of following this club. EDIT: and 3 of those points attributed to Kinnear was the West Brom away game when he wasn't even there. Hughton's/Calderwood's points surely? Tips the balance even further in favour of KK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charvski 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 big al is the answer at this moment in time for sure, it is either employ him or start the season with clipboard bastard chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13883 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Two of Keegan's games were Man United and Arsenal. Away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26582 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 The benefits of having Shearer is that he knows the club and has a fair idea of what players we have and what players we need, given the short time we have before the start of the season this is a huge bonus, not to mention that he'll command respect from the players and it's clear that he's the man the players want in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) If Coppel was willing to take the job then I think he'd be a good choice as I've always rated him highly. However, considering management stresses him out so much as it is, coming to Newcastle would probably make him suicidal. I think Curbishly would be a safe option in that I don't think we'd go down to league 1 with him in charge but I cant see us getting back up anytime soon with him either, same goes for Strachan. Shearer is largely an unknown quantity but has several things going in his favour, the love for the club, loyalty but most of all hunger which I think Curbs and Coppel may have lost to some extent. Edited July 15, 2009 by TicTacWoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6441 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 "we were on a great run. It was looking an absolute doddle" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Curbishley bought shite at west ham when he was given the opportunity. Only a fucking idiot would want him here given his track record of mediocrity. If the quotes are true from the players, then they see Shearer as the man to effect positive change if given the opportunity. I'll go along with that rather than wheel out the same tired old fuckers which shows no imagination or ambition at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 If we are still under LardAsh at the start of the season, I see Shearer as the best option...most significantly for the revenue factor. If he were appointed, there would be a chance that season ticket sales would be double what they would be than under some other manager. NUFC needs money right now, and under Shearer I think that's the best way of getting it. However, I doubt Shearer would take the job if LardAsh was still owner because whatever finance came into the club would not be used for player strengthening. Basically, without a new owner we are fucked and heading toward League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Keegan got 4 points from 3 games. (1.3 points per game) Hughton got 0 points from 3 games. (0 points per game) Kinnear got 23 points from 19 games. (1.2 points per game) Hughton & Calderwood got 2 points from 5 games. (0.4 points per game) Shearer got 5 points from 8 games. (0.625 points per game) So if we're going by stats, we should have kept Keegan - is that what you're saying Joe? What the stats don't prove however is that Kinnear presided over both the home draws to Wigan and Stoke - both of which we were winning into the last minute and either of which would have saved us from relegation. Fuck off Joe - your football is amongst the worst I have ever witnessed in nearly 30 years of following this club. EDIT: and 3 of those points attributed to Kinnear was the West Brom away game when he wasn't even there. Hughton's/Calderwood's points surely? Tips the balance even further in favour of KK. So much for Keegan's doubters, especially with his games against Arsenal and Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Shearer for me. Experience? ...not much by any standards but the last 8 games of a relegation season is tatamount to on the job training on the fast-track. Experience? ...look at the likes of Keegan, Ince, Keane, and others who did well in their first management job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 With Dowie yes. His experience and knowledge of the Fizzy Pop League will be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38934 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I'm sure Shearer would love to bounce a few things off JFK- none of them ideas. Poll wise- shearer, we don't have any other viable options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) Kinnear must be forgetting the draws against shit teams under him and the hard run of games we had coming up. Assuming he has that much nouse. Anyway, speaking of Kinnear, I'm cynical enough now about the club to assume the stories about Kinnear coming back then not coming back both originated from the club, so us fans would believe the sale is still going ahead. Edited July 15, 2009 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13883 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 When Chelsea (top four finishers at the time) was bought in 2003 it was the most an English club had ever went for at £140m. What makes Ashley think he can get £100m for a Championship club believed to be in financial disarray in this economic climate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9053 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Shearer is the only man I believe would galvanise the fans in such a way as to make them forget about the disastrous off season, he is already there and knows what he wants from the players, coaches etc. It would be foolish to spend any more time searching for a new manager, because that would put the club even further behind the times. The new man (whoever it was) would still need a couple of weeks to look at the squad and decide what he thinks is neccesary. Alan has the added bonus of being balding... that's a quality I like in a young manager... bestows a distinguished but hard edge to the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 When Chelsea (top four finishers at the time) was bought in 2003 it was the most an English club had ever went for at £140m. What makes Ashley think he can get £100m for a Championship club believed to be in financial disarray in this economic climate? Chelsea probably had more assets etc. but they were in a terrible state financially at the time too. Not saying we're worth £100m btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13883 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yea but they had Champions League money on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Shearer is a relatively unknown prospect when it comes th management however having the likes of Dowie alongside him would give the experience needed. Added to that his understanding of the club, knowledge of the players and general standing in the game and I think hes a fairly good choice. Irrespecitve however hes the only choice we have, I dont see others beating the door down begging for the position, anyone we do get is going to be a Yes man under Ashley and most likely just in it for the money. So there are others out there with way more experience but its highly unlikely we would get them and added to that they would be starting on the back foot anyway knowing the fans and players wanted Shearer here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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