Brock Manson 0 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Its funny how some people seem to have this disdain or whatever for Ferguson but are equally happy to froth away about Sameobi or Vuckic both of who are on or around the same level. Based on one mazy dribble against Stoke? Sameobi and Vuckic are both on the verges of the first team, Shane™ has barely made a mark yet! Here's the thing though, Shane™ beats three Stoke Players and spoons it into the keepers' arms; he's our brightest prospect and will be a mainstay for years to come. Ben Arfa beats half the Blackburn team and scores a wondergoal yet you slate him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Tbf, Ferguson's shown a bit of potential, just like the two mentioned. Sammy looked to have jumped ahead of him in the queue. But people on here aren't waxing lyrical about them in the way CT does about 'Shane' so I'm not sure what his point is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5941 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think Shane has shown as much potential as Vuckic tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I'd like to see Pardew stick him in at left back and move Santon to right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Its funny how some people seem to have this disdain or whatever for Ferguson but are equally happy to froth away about Sameobi or Vuckic both of who are on or around the same level. Based on one mazy dribble against Stoke? Sameobi and Vuckic are both on the verges of the first team, Shane™ has barely made a mark yet! Hate to bring facts into it but Sammi made 1 league sub appearance last year, Vuckic 0 and Ferguson 7. This season Vuckic has made two starts and Sammy and Shane one apiece. Doesnt really square with your view of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Vuckic, by all accounts, is head and shoulders above the rest of his youth team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Tbf, Ferguson's shown a bit of potential, just like the two mentioned. Sammy looked to have jumped ahead of him in the queue. But people on here aren't waxing lyrical about them in the way CT does about 'Shane' so I'm not sure what his point is there. Sammy only got ahead of Shane because Shane got injured pre season in America. People do wax lyrical about Sammy. Some were even suggesting he start every game back in September. I have explained how my exuberance for seeing Shane given a run is tied in with his potential and my views on Jonas. People go on and on about our lack of cover in defence but for me our lack of creativity on the wings is the biggest problem we have. The spotlight will only intensify over coming games as we now have quality up front waiting for crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26470 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Anyone know why he was taken off at HT for Cardiff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I'd like to see Pardew stick him in at left back and move Santon to right back. Aye, I said similar the other day. More to do with my feelings on Simpson though much else like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Anyone know why he was taken off at HT for Cardiff? Wonder how ranger is getting on as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Or Lua Lua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Its funny how some people seem to have this disdain or whatever for Ferguson but are equally happy to froth away about Sameobi or Vuckic both of who are on or around the same level. Based on one mazy dribble against Stoke? Sameobi and Vuckic are both on the verges of the first team, Shane™ has barely made a mark yet! Hate to bring facts into it but Sammi made 1 league sub appearance last year, Vuckic 0 and Ferguson 7. This season Vuckic has made two starts and Sammy and Shane one apiece. Doesnt really square with your view of things. Let's be honest here, you're backed into Shane™'s corner and that's fine but he hasn't reproduced the Stoke magic this season. I have no idea if he'll come good, none at all. Never seen him play reserve football so I can't say what his chances of a NUFC career are, but I'm not basing everything on one fucking run that didn't amount to anything! If anything, it means he's a winger with fuck all end product. Would love it if he can grow into a first team place and not be the next promising youngster who turned out to be shit but we can't say either way what'll happen. Your stat argument is cute btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4229 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Its funny how some people seem to have this disdain or whatever for Ferguson but are equally happy to froth away about Sameobi or Vuckic both of who are on or around the same level. Based on one mazy dribble against Stoke? Sameobi and Vuckic are both on the verges of the first team, Shane™ has barely made a mark yet! Hate to bring facts into it but Sammi made 1 league sub appearance last year, Vuckic 0 and Ferguson 7. This season Vuckic has made two starts and Sammy and Shane one apiece. Doesnt really square with your view of things. youve changed stats half way through THIS season, "shane" has made 2 sub appearances only, Sammy Ameobi has made 1 start and 9 sub appearances and Vuckic has made 2 starts and 2 sub appearances and is now on loan a a good CCC side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 youve changed stats half way through THIS season, "shane" has made 2 sub appearances only, Sammy Ameobi has made 1 start and 9 sub appearances and Vuckic has made 2 starts and 2 sub appearances and is now on loan a a good CCC side Don't let stats get in the way of a pro Shane™ stat argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Anyone know why he was taken off at HT for Cardiff? Wonder how ranger is getting on as well? Ranger got knackered and had to come back up here for treatment, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Went into administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34623 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 CT comes off like a Belfast sex tourist itt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Have now been dragged out shopping so cant play anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Hate to bring facts into it but Sammi made 1 league sub appearance last year, Vuckic 0 and Ferguson 7. This season Vuckic has made two starts and Sammy and Shane one apiece. Doesnt really square with your view of things. How would that that support your argument that given a chance "shane" will shine? If he's had more chances than any of his contemporaries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Hate to bring facts into it but Sammi made 1 league sub appearance last year, Vuckic 0 and Ferguson 7. This season Vuckic has made two starts and Sammy and Shane one apiece. Doesnt really square with your view of things. How would that that support your argument that given a chance "shane" will shine? If he's had more chances than any of his contemporaries? It doesn't, it disputes Brocks assertion that Vuckic and Sammy are way ahead of him. The fact that SF is usually quite focussed on getting the ball into the box combined with the duo we now have there waiting is why I think he'll do well. It's also not an argument just my opinion. We all have youngsters we like the look of and hope they get a shot. Some will prefer Sammy, some Vuckic, some Ranger. I just prefer to see him get a go ahead of the others. We are crying out for some service from the wings and he might just deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Hate to bring facts into it but Sammi made 1 league sub appearance last year, Vuckic 0 and Ferguson 7. This season Vuckic has made two starts and Sammy and Shane one apiece. Make your mind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26966 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I like the look of the kid, to be fair to CT. I think he's more a prospect than Sammy as well. Early days though and his injury has put him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hate to bring facts into it but Sammi made 1 league sub appearance last year, Vuckic 0 and Ferguson 7. This season Vuckic has made two starts and Sammy and Shane one apiece. Doesnt really square with your view of things. How would that that support your argument that given a chance "shane" will shine? If he's had more chances than any of his contemporaries? It doesn't, it disputes Brocks assertion that Vuckic and Sammy are way ahead of him. Don't see how. "Shane" is a year older than both Ameobi and Vuckic, he broke into the first team before them simply by virtue of that fact, but his injury set him back. Ameobi and Vuckic have started making the same kind of first team appearances at the same time in their development (aged 19). I've got little hope for any of them to be brutally honest. They don't need to be as impressive as Oxlade-Chamberlain (he's a year or 2 younger than all 3) or Aaron Ramsay when he was setting the world alight at 18, but they're nowhere close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Bit harsh there like, HF. They all need games to show what they can do and develop as players but I wouldn't write off any of them - it's way too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Think OxO will go to the Euro's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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