Meenzer 14060 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 If only they had've tried that over here......... "Miiiiichaaaaeeeeeeellll!!!!!!!!!............" "Weeeellllliammsonnnnnn!!!!!!!" :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Fashunu about 15 years ago? http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/sep/20/justin-fashanu-problems-gay-sport?CMP=twt_gu Decent enough summary, I think - putting Fashanu up there as some kind of poster boy for gay sportsmen is obviously excessive, but you'd like to think he'd have got a fairer deal nowadays, with most coaches being more enlightened than the likes of Clough and society having generally moved on a bit, even to the extent of relatively minor stuff like there being a pro-gay equality song in the top 10 (that's the top 10 of the hit parade, pop pickers!). I find it hard to disagree with the reader comment about agents rather than fans being the real sticking point, for all there's no concrete evidence to back it up - yes, an out gay footballer would get stick from the stands, but fans will always find something to focus on if they think they can unsettle an opposition player. You won't make it as a professional footballer without a thick skin, whoever/whatever you are. And it's not as if Brighton do any worse for the constant away-fan contributions of "Does your boyfriend know you're here?" and similar. But tell an agent that their protégé is about to make his merchandise supposedly unwearable on the street or the playground.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26942 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Anyone old enough (thats you Mr Dunn ) to hazard a guess as to whos lining up here beside Jasper Carrott Trevor Francis v France in Bilbao at Spain 82?...iyam, l-r: Samson, Hoddle, Wilkins, Woodcock. Think 15 is Woodcock, in between Jasper Carrot and number 17 might be Bryan Robson. 19 could be Paul Marriner? I'd go with Sansom as 17. It's hard to tell as they're a bit elongated in that pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26942 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 The face above 15 looking at Francis is Alison Moyet from the Communards though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 The face above 15 looking at Francis is Alison Moyet from the Communards though. I loved her hit single "Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 The main thing I'm getting from that photo is that the kit was basically designed to make dumpy blokes look like they had remarkably pert bottoms. What's 1982-speak for "Gok Wan" and how did he wangle himself onto the design team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26942 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 The main thing I'm getting from that photo is that the kit was basically designed to make dumpy blokes look like they had remarkably pert bottoms. What's 1982-speak for "Gok Wan" and how did he wangle himself onto the design team? I've still got the home kit which for some reason I couldn't bare chucking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Anyone old enough (thats you Mr Dunn ) to hazard a guess as to whos lining up here beside Jasper Carrott Trevor Francis v France in Bilbao at Spain 82?...iyam, l-r: Samson, Hoddle, Wilkins, Woodcock. Kenny Sansom, Phil Thompson, Butch Wilkins, Graham Rix apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38815 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Is the 15 on Rix's shirt the maximum age he'll consider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14626 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Is the 15 on Rix's shirt the maximum age he'll consider? "If you tolerate Rix, then your children will be next" Kitman's got 3 out of 4, the one to Jasper's left is either 8 or 10. However I googled it and have it on very good authority that Francis himself wore number 8 in that squad The number 10 is a well known and hugely decorated player from the 70s & 80s.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9010 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9010 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Nile Ranger scored for Swindon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) Lingard on loan from ManUtd to Birmingham scored a hat trick in 13 minutes for Birmingham today. Edited September 21, 2013 by Barney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38815 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 "If you tolerate Rix, then your children will be next" Kitman's got 3 out of 4, the one to Jasper's left is either 8 or 10. However I googled it and have it on very good authority that Francis himself wore number 8 in that squad The number 10 is a well known and hugely decorated player from the 70s & 80s.... Pre-perm , obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Just catching up on tonight's MOTD. Steven Fletcher has a tattoo on his lower back that reads... "FLETCHER". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3206 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Just catching up on tonight's MOTD. Steven Fletcher has a tattoo on his lower back that reads... "FLETCHER". Surely fucking not!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13881 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 https://twitter.com/Gazza_D_/status/384296155980779520 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/30/gary-lineker-defies-match-of-the-day-critics?CMP=twt_gu Gary Lineker thinks fan criticism of Match Of The Day is driven solely by the Daily Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/oct/01/manchester-united-shakhtar-donetsk-champions-league Manchester United must be wary of Shakhtar Donetsk's boys from BrazilShakhtar Donetsk should win the championship this season, but it says something for the changes in the Ukrainian league that the verb is "should" rather than "will". The shakiness of Manchester United's start to the campaign may be more obvious – while United lie 12th in the Premier League table, Shakhtar are third in the Premier Liha – but this has been a sobering couple of months for Mircea Lucescu's side.There are still 19 games to go, and Shakhtar have won seven of their 11 matches so far, but the landscape has changed. They are five points clear of their traditional rivals Dynamo Kyiv, whose refusal to accept the inevitable and replace Oleh Blokhin becomes increasingly baffling by the week, but Dynamo are no longer the main threat. Top of the table stand Metalist Kharkiv, with nine wins and two draws from 11 games, including a 1-1 draw at the Donbass Arena, and then come Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk, who were convincing 3-1 winners over Shakhtar at the end of August. The league campaign has become a struggle rather than a procession.This was always going to be a season of transition for Shakhtar, who sold Fernandinho and Henrikh Mkhitaryan in the summer, having already lost Willian in January. No side can expect to lose three of their biggest talents and go on as though nothing has happened; but what has caused disquiet in Donetsk is that the struggles have come not in Europe but domestically. Shakhtar began their Champions League campaign with a slightly fortuitous 2-0 win away to Real Sociedad, but if they could take advantage of United's indifferent form in a packed Donbass Arena on Wednesday, they would be in control of the group.As has been their policy for a decade, Shakhtar looked to South America to replace the talent they moved on. Four Brazilians arrived, taking the total number to have played for Shakhtar since Matuzalém arrived in 2004 to 23 (not including Eduardo, who was born in Brazil but is a naturalised Croatian and Marcelo Moreno, who is Bolivian but has a Brazilian father). The most vaunted of the four is probably the 21-year-old forward Bernard, who has already won seven caps for Brazil and was linked with Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal in the summer, but he has started a single game so far. Fred, a gifted 20-year-old midfielder, is already a fixture; Lucas Fernando has started only one game – at 21, he could be the long-term replacement for Fernandinho; and the 21-year-old forward Wellington Nem, who hasn't started a Shakhtar game yet, was a key figure in Fluminense's title triumph last season.One of Shakhtar's strengths is that they don't rush players to integrate. Douglas Costa was signed in 2009, but it's only this season, at 23, that he has really become a regular. In a sense, this is a modern version of the old Liverpool policy under Bob Paisley of buying promise and then leaving it in the reserves for six months to learn the club's methods. "It is clear that the newcomers are talented players," said Lucescu, who last week became the longest serving coach in Shakhtar's history. "But when two or three of them go out in the starting lineup, our game goes a bit wrong. We're waiting. Naturally, we need patience."Facundo "Chucky" Ferreyra, an unusual, awkward centre-forward who flickered and frustrated at Banfield for years – although he is still only 22 – before exploding with 16 goals in 18 games last season as Vélez Sarsfield won the Torneo Inicial, is another summer recruit who has seen limited action, starting two games so far. "They come," Lucescu said, "because they see the set-up here and because I convince them." He is charismatic, a gifted linguist – he speaks at least seven languages with a degree of fluency – and is beloved.I visited Shakhtar's extraordinary training complex – it features an aviary and fishing lakes to help keep players entertained, as well as all the usual gyms, pitches and training equipment – in 2007. Although Lucescu, now 68, is a hugely entertaining man to interview – he sees conspiracies everywhere and spent a long time pitying me for the lack of flavour in English tomatoes – the most memorable moment came as I walked with Lucescu from the canteen where we'd had lunch to an office where we had coffee. We passed through a room in which three young Brazilians were lounging watching a recording of a Brazilian league match. Immediately they began talking to him, desperate to describe an incident that had happened a few minutes earlier. He smiled and, with avuncular concern, promised to come back and watch it later. Given the cynicism that pervades so much of football, it was a surprising and touching moment; Lucescu as favourite teacher, a man who loves his subject and can inspire that love in others.One Brazilian begets another. When Douglas Costa was contemplating his options, he rang Willian and Luiz Adriano, both of them from his home state of Porto Alegre, to seek their advice. They described a thriving Brazilian community. Ukraine may not be much like western Europe, but Shakhtar, with its first-rate facilities, is an ideal stepping stone. Young Brazilians know they are going to a club who will give them a chance and at which the process of adaptation will be easier than almost anywhere else.Whether that is good for Ukrainian football is another matter; Shakhtar do little to develop local talent, but their policy has seen them topple Dynamo and become a major European force. Beating United and managing this transition would be a major step to confirming their development can continue for the long-term.Shakhtar's shape is relatively easy to predict; the personnel less so. After abandoning the diamond, Lucescu has been a firm devotee of 4-2-3-1, which probably means Fernando operating alongside the dogged Czech Tomas Hubschman at the back of midfield. "It's a dynamic way of playing," Lucescu told the latest issue of Champions magazine. "The layout on the pitch is valid at the start of the game – after that things change. For me, the leader on the pitch is whoever has the ball. He decides how to play."Luiz Adriano will almost certainly be the lone striker and it would be a major surprise if Alex Teixeira, scorer of both goals in San Sebastián, did not operate behind him. On the evidence of United's past two league games, his willingness to run at defenders could be a major threat. The wide positions are less clear with Lucescu to perm two from Taison, Douglas Costa and Bernard. What is certain, though, is that the five most attacking players will, once again, be Brazilian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9010 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/30/gary-lineker-defies-match-of-the-day-critics?CMP=twt_gu Gary Lineker thinks fan criticism of Match Of The Day is driven solely by the Daily Mail. Raises a valid point about the amount of time they can spend analysing. So what's the compromise? Some fans want more stats and tactical analysis, some fans just want the goals. People want Shearer, Hansen and Lawrenson gone, but who do you replace them with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4226 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Remy and Cabaye have been called up to the france squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9010 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Remy and Cabaye have been called up to the france squad They join Sissoko and Debuchy. but no Ben Arfa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19838 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Napoli stadium announcer introduces Gonzalo Higuain to the crowd before the Champs League match. Superb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QXROcBwRf2E should have been a dnb mc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4226 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Dan Goslings gone to Blackpool on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Dan Goslings gone to Blackpool on loan Wonga mafia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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