Jump to content

Europe --- In or Out


Christmas Tree
 Share

Europe?  

92 members have voted

You do not have permission to vote in this poll, or see the poll results. Please sign in or register to vote in this poll.

Recommended Posts

Don't you think there's going to be further austerity measures anyway? At least if they split from the Union it'll be measures from people who actually represent them.

If Scotland had left 2014 (before the oil crash), they'd be on their knees now and in much worse austerity than before.

 

Their plan for independence was based on a high oil price. Going alone now could only be done with massive cuts due to the shortfall in cash.

 

Politically they've been able to blame austerity so far on Downing Street. Their popularity would diminish if it was wee cranky imposing cuts that would make Osbourne wince.

 

This is why she gave a very ifs and buts statement today.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If Scotland had left 2014 (before the oil crash), they'd be on their knees now and in much worse austerity than before.

 

Their plan for independence was based on a high oil price. Going alone now could only be done with massive cuts due to the shortfall in cash.

 

Politically they've been able to blame austerity so far on Downing Street. Their popularity would diminish if it was wee cranky imposing cuts that would make Osbourne wince.

 

This is why she gave a very ifs and buts statement today.

I know I do. :lol:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Has t'old Barack said owt yet?

Pretty much as expected once were out.

 

 

 

Mr Obama has insisted the UK and Washington will “indispensable partners" following Britain’s decision to sever ties with Brussels.

 

It comes after a bout of scaremongering by the US president when he warned Britain would be “at the back of the queue” for a trade deal in the event of a British exodus from the 28-nation bloc.

 

But the US leader appeared to go back on his word today when he said both the UK and European Union would remain "indispensable partners".

 

He said: "The people of the United Kingdom have spoken, and we respect their decision. The special relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom is enduring, and the United Kingdom's membership in Nato remains a vital cornerstone of US foreign, security and economic policy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

all of the world's great powers, world leaders and political figures are uniting behind the triumph of the Brexiters, from Donald Trump to Putin, to Iran and China :lol:

 

If it kicks off, it sounds like we're on the right side. I'll see you in the irradiated wasteland of Walker

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No.

 

Scotland has to weigh up lots before the get a referendum. Will they win? Could the manage financially without having to implement a horrific austerity program? Would they join the Euro?

 

IF contagion continues to grow in Europe, is it worth them risking it all?

 

I personally think EU is finished in current format and will have to change quite dramatically to stave off contagion.

 

And yes I think they will come around to a free trading agreement with us. Basically not pressing the button on article 50 today allows for tempers to cool, secret talks to start and avoid a manic willy waving contest.

I hope you're right but the most obvious way for the EU to stop contagion is punitive measures on us. We can retaliate, but as the EU bloc is nearly a magnitude bigger than us, I can guess who will come off worst. Edited by Renton
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I hope you're right but the most obvious way for to stop contagion is punitive measures on us. We can retaliate, but as the EU bloc is nearly a magnitude bigger than us, I can guess who will come off worst.

I understand that position but the big players in the EU each have their own euroskeptics problems as well as their own industries to keep on side with elections coming up.

 

Not to mention growing problems in the eurozone and with refugees.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank god we don't have national referendums any more. Asking people on long term issues doesn't work, regardless if you are for or against a Polish invasion...

:lol:

 

Although that joke may scan better if you finish it as "... for a Polish invasion or Invasion of Poland".

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just catching up.

 

So we voted Brexit and now Renton is moving next door to me?

 

Fuck sake man.

:lol: That's best read in a broad Scottish accent.

 

Catching up with the news there on the radio. Sounds like the EU are booting our arse out the back door asap. Doesn't sound conciliatory at all, I'm feeling depressed again.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

:lol: That's best read in a broad Scottish accent.

 

Catching up with the news there on the radio. Sounds like the EU are booting our arse out the back door asap. Doesn't sound conciliatory at all, I'm feeling depressed again.

Merkel is in the "let's take time over this" camp, so that's probably what will happen. Anyway, I don't think they get to boot us out any quicker - surely the 2 year thing is there to protect both parties. I think they just want to enforce us doing this Article 50 trigger sooner, which I can understand as we've made the decision so shouldn't be allowed to delay that just cos we fancy it.

 

If they want us to actually leave quick they'll probably need to make concessions to make it happen.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

:lol: That's best read in a broad Scottish accent.

 

Catching up with the news there on the radio. Sounds like the EU are booting our arse out the back door asap. Doesn't sound conciliatory at all, I'm feeling depressed again.

I think there's a difference of tone between EU officials and sovereign countries. EU officials are willy waving where as officials from Germany / Poland are talking about new treaty's, EU reform and giving us association status.

 

Honestly, I'm fairly certain that our relationship with Europe over the coming weeks will get stronger and stronger leading to a deal within 12 months.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Merkel is in the "let's take time over this" camp, so that's probably what will happen. Anyway, I don't think they get to boot us out any quicker - surely the 2 year thing is there to protect both parties. I think they just want to enforce us doing this Article 50 trigger sooner, which I can understand as we've made the decision so shouldn't be allowed to delay that just cos we fancy it.

 

If they want us to actually leave quick they'll probably need to make concessions to make it happen.

Totally upto us when we trigger article 50. The referendum isn't binding so we can basically do what the fuck we want.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Totally upto us when we trigger article 50. The referendum isn't binding so we can basically do what the fuck we want.

The EU president is getting his legal eagles to look into this CT. Sounds like he could save a lot of time and money by just ordering a taxi from Boldon Asda and chatting this through with you.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The EU president is getting his legal eagles to look into this CT. Sounds like he could save a lot of time and money by just ordering a taxi from Boldon Asda and chatting this through with you.

Sorry :lol: I wrote the last few words in a Gemmill style tribute.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

i took it in the sense of hiring/firing

You hand in your notice and if it suits *work* they'll make you adhere to it so they're not left in the lurch, but in reality security will escort you out the door so you're not getting paid for twiddling your thumbs and being on the wind down.

Aye, so did I. No more meetings, and your PC account has been deleted.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.