Renton 17935 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Well that article made sense until he said this "David Cameron will go down as one of the worst prime ministers in UK history". We know he couldn't be more wrong on that score. Ahh, there's nothing more the right of the Tory party likes than a good hard brexiting, they learn it in prep school I believe. We're all in for it now though, pass the Vaseline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26673 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 It's not just the Tories and UKIPers than are utter fucking morons. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/chuka-umunna-single-market-free-movement-brexit_uk_57e3e201e4b0db20a6e8b057? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30664 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Why should Brexit by so one-sided when it was a relatively close result? The argument that you have to give the 17m who voted for it exactly what they want and ignore the 16m or so who didn't makes no sense whatsoever. Especially when no one was told in advance what Brexit would actually mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14117 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19943 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Scoop of the century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17935 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 It's not just the Tories and UKIPers than are utter fucking morons. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/chuka-umunna-single-market-free-movement-brexit_uk_57e3e201e4b0db20a6e8b057? "In an interview with HuffPost UK this morning, Stalybridge and Hyde MP Jonathan Reynolds argued that people’s “genuine emotional concerns” about uncontrolled immigration cannot be dealt with just by pointing to reports and statistics which talk up the economic benefit of freedom of movement". Fuck evidence and rationality, let's pander to people's emotional fears and most base instincts in other words. I'd agree that people's fears should have been addressed more openly and there should have been a move to introduce countermeasures in those places genuinely affected (not you Sunderland), but to base policy on emotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Policy based on emotion is where we're headed. We live in a post-truth era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Worth a read: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/25/boris-johnson-nhs-extra-funds-after-brexit-andrew-marr-lansley We all know Boris didn't believe in Brexit but this basically confirms it. Utter fuckwit this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted October 1, 2016 Author Share Posted October 1, 2016 May announces "great repeal act". Looks like a hard Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14117 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Well, I suppose it'll be nice to finally know what we were actually voting on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Oh well. It's not like I work at Nissan I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19943 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 It doesn't necessarily mean hard Brexit but we can pretty much rule out a second referendum, which is what we have to reluctantly accept. We live in a democracy and the great unwashed have spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 Excellent interview from May on the Marr show. Shes going to be a great PM. Got Brexit covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 Confirms Article 50 triggered by end of March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17935 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Excellent interview from May on the Marr show. Shes going to be a great PM. Got Brexit covered. Phew,thank fuck for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38982 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Excellent interview from May on the Marr show. Shes going to be a great PM. Got Brexit covered. Best PM in your lunchtime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) Excellent interview from May on the Marr show. Shes going to be a great PM. Got Brexit covered. I'm going to be generous and state that I don't think the following is necessarily fair on May (though it's exactly what she signed up for) but i think she'll end up roundly despised. She won't Brexit hard enough for most leavers because she won't actually want to destroy the country, and the remainers will hate her on principle of destroying everything we thought we knew about Britain. By the end of her tenure I suspect she'll be desperate to leave government. As for the UK, I look forward to our incoming cash flow issues and associated chaos. Edited October 2, 2016 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 I'm going to be generous and state that I don't think the following is necessarily fair on May (though it's exactly what she signed up for) but i think she'll end up roundly despised. She won't Brexit hard enough for most leavers because she won't actually want to destroy the country, and the remainers will hate her on principle of destroying everything we thought we knew about Britain. By the end of her tenure I suspect she'll be desperate to leave government. As for the UK, I look forward to our incoming cash flow issues and associated chaos. I think it's a given that most PM's end up pretty despised. As for the cash flow, don't worry, be happy. There are people in the world with nothing that have a much more enjoyable life than those with "everything". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17935 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I think it's a given that most PM's end up pretty despised. As for the cash flow, don't worry, be happy. There are people in the world with nothing that have a much more enjoyable life than those with "everything". There are people without access to healthcare, education, sanitation, plentiful food who are happier than us? I doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14117 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Fuck me, I thought people were voting to take Britain back to the 1950s, not to move it to the Third World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14774 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Excellent interview from May on the Marr show. Shes going to be a great PM. Got Brexit covered. Just out of interest mate, what's your top 5 list for UK PMs?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14117 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/10/02/don-t-be-fooled-may-s-big-eu-announcement-is-just-admin Vast swathes of UK law simply handed over to Tory ministers? No wonder CT is delighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19943 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Best PM in your lunchtime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 Just out of interest mate, what's your top 5 list for UK PMs?... As there's only been 6 that I can personally remember it's a limited question. I assume you mean from all time which takes us back to the 1700's. That's one for historians to argue about. (A bit like trying to pick the best Newcastle 11 of all time). Like you probably I know bits and bobs about a handful of them. Churchill was great during the war, Attlee rebuilding after it. Then you have the brilliance of Pitt the younger. Dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35131 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Dunno Aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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