Rayvin 4972 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 To be fair, that particular case is pretty abhorrent  Still though, a few bad apples doesn't mean that there aren't people who genuinely need this support. It's a tough one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14143 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Still though, a few bad apples doesn't mean that there aren't people who genuinely need this support. It's a tough one. Â It's really not imo, and your first sentence explains exactly why. Unfortunately the disproportionate coverage of the exceptional cases in the scum press inevitably leads to this kind of thing: Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 How is the 0.7% calculated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14143 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 How is the 0.7% calculated?  https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system  The figures are published there so I imagine the methodology is detailed somewhere on the site too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39189 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Amazing URL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4972 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Â It's really not imo, and your first sentence explains exactly why. Unfortunately the disproportionate coverage of the exceptional cases in the scum press inevitably leads to this kind of thing: Â Â Â I agree tbh, my final statement was more of a peace offering to Des, so as to avoid any of the usual shenanigans. Â Good fact based argument though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4972 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/13/north-sea-oil-money-uk-norwegians-fund  Don't know if anyone saw this - basically it's about the North Sea Oil. Norway has saved their share of it and now has the equivalent of £100,000/person in their country which they're putting towards the future.  Ours would have been worth £7.5k per person, or roughly £450 billion (conservative estimate - upper estimates are £850 billion). Enough to wipe out the deficit multiple times, and rebuild the entire industrial base of this country. Our sovereign debt is £1.3 trillion - so most of that.  What happened to ours?  Thatcher dropped the top rate of tax from 60% to 40%, thus writing it off entirely. £180 billion in her tenure alone. £180 fucking billion.  To those who support the Tories - they are laughing at you. They are laughing in your face while you scramble around trying to improve your lot in life. All the way to the fucking bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4016 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Plus funding massive unemployment of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3284 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 So we will quit the EU if it doesn't reform to George Osborne's standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/13/north-sea-oil-money-uk-norwegians-fund  Don't know if anyone saw this - basically it's about the North Sea Oil. Norway has saved their share of it and now has the equivalent of £100,000/person in their country which they're putting towards the future.  Ours would have been worth £7.5k per person, or roughly £450 billion (conservative estimate - upper estimates are £850 billion). Enough to wipe out the deficit multiple times, and rebuild the entire industrial base of this country. Our sovereign debt is £1.3 trillion - so most of that.  What happened to ours?  Thatcher dropped the top rate of tax from 60% to 40%, thus writing it off entirely. £180 billion in her tenure alone. £180 fucking billion.  To those who support the Tories - they are laughing at you. They are laughing in your face while you scramble around trying to improve your lot in life. All the way to the fucking bank. Had a look at that fund a few years ago and it seems well run and a good idea of securing a strong future for Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18068 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) The benefit per capita would have obviously been less for us but no doubt we pissed it away with tory electoral bribes. Â Scotland should have gone for indepence three decades ago, they'd have been transformed. Edited January 15, 2014 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14143 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 https://twitter.com/clogsilk/status/423381718574178304 Â Osborne's policies are benefiting one group of people, at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Lee Sales Team is a remarkably apt name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14143 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Lee Sales Team is a remarkably apt name. Â Nominative determinism at its finest. Â The refutation: http://www.kfh.co.uk/press/catford.htm - even the professionals acknowledge that Help to Buy is seen a useful price-driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 'it does not form part of our approved marketing material' just means someone was stupid enough to tell the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4972 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Yeah I think we can now assume that Lee Sales Team is now fired. Or dead in a gutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Lee Sales Team. That's pure Partridge territory. Edited January 15, 2014 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Listened to PM questions yesterday and lots of Tories got up to give the PM and Chancellor a big back slap for how well their areas are doing. Those great northern towns of Sutton, Shrewsbury, and Milton Keynes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Gays to blame for floods. Â http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14143 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 UKIPpers are fun when they finally get a platform for their views. Like the mother who says her son's been "diagnosed" as dyslexic but she's confident it's just his teachers who are lazy because dyslexia doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39189 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 UKIPpers are fun when they finally get a platform for their views. Like the mother who says her son's been "diagnosed" as dyslexic but she's confident it's just his teachers who are lazy because dyslexia doesn't exist. I balme the gasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26853 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 So the gays have supernatural powers now? Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39189 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 So the gays have supernatural powers now? Cool. Keep up, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14143 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14143 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 http://soundcloud.com/nicholas-pegg/ukip-shipping-forecast  Already doing the rounds and then some, but it's still a thing of beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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