Happy Face 29 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 CT slow with the crime figures today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4003 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 CT slow with the crime figures today. Same old Tories...... Tax down, economy better, crime lower etc etc You'll get used to it the longer you watch politics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26802 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 There must be some electronic way of making sure benefits are used by the right people? Issued on chipped cards maybe? I don't know, I suppose the scumbags out there would still get around it by buying the correct goods with them then selling those on instead. There's no way of doing it that will guarantee that the money is being used for the right purposes but in certain US states they use debit style cards. It does go some way to ensuring that they're not being sold off but again isn't perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Same old Tories...... Tax down, economy better, crime lower etc etc You'll get used to it the longer you watch politics! Criminals are too hungry and lack the energy for crimery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4003 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Criminals are too hungry and lack the energy for crimery. nah, they're just now all working in proper jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The Trussell Trust is the main food bank operator throughout the country. I have no issue with food banks or there use, just with people who dress them up as a political football and portray this picture of every family on benefit queuing up to give there kids tea every night. Virtually any one who has dealings with a food bank will point you in the direction of drugs, alcohol, domestic violence etc as the main culprit. Dramatising it the way some of you do is as simplistic as people using that Benefit street program to bash benefit claimants. There are lots of offshoots of food banks having to be set up in the last couple of years due to demand, just because a large and official one has this rule doesn't mean that there are now lots of other community foodbanks running who have had to abandon that rule due to demand. Dave said himself, without a hint of irony, that all the new Community foodbanks that were springing up were a great example of the 'The Big Society'. I'm not trying to dramatise anything, I'm just telling you what I know and see through my work. Hey, I see lots of people taking the piss out of the system and taking food they don't need, neglecting kids etc. The majority though are looking for work and do really need food, and despite the Daily Fail's generalisations of their perceived underlcass, not everyone on benefits smokes tabs, goes to the local, and takes drugs. I think it's great that unemployment is down as more and more people are signed up for the unpaid Work Programme, to Zero hour contracts, to Agencies who take the piss. The problem with having the Tories in for those on the breadline is that they only get voted in to Parliament in affluent areas. So it's a bit of I'm Alright Jack. Some of them might have a little council estate of oiks somewhere in the constituency but luckily for them they don't bother with politics and they don't ever have to go there so it's ok. This is not Pro-Labour either, I've criticised them lots on here and the thought of Ed Balls as Chancellor puts a shudder down my spine (useless twat) but at least they usually tend to represent poorer constituencies so can't avoid having these issues thrown in their faces therefore having to do something about it, even if a lot of them don't really care either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Targets being set for reported crimes will inevitibly lead to a drop. Have you not watched The Wire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 My very first job was doing stats for the Local Authority. Some of the bullshit they made me churn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4003 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 There are lots of offshoots of food banks having to be set up in the last couple of years due to demand, just because a large and official one has this rule doesn't mean that there are now lots of other community foodbanks running who have had to abandon that rule due to demand. Dave said himself, without a hint of irony, that all the new Community foodbanks that were springing up were a great example of the 'The Big Society'. I'm not trying to dramatise anything, I'm just telling you what I know and see through my work. Hey, I see lots of people taking the piss out of the system and taking food they don't need, neglecting kids etc. The majority though are looking for work and do really need food, and despite the Daily Fail's generalisations of their perceived underlcass, not everyone on benefits smokes tabs, goes to the local, and takes drugs. I think it's great that unemployment is down as more and more people are signed up for the unpaid Work Programme, to Zero hour contracts, to Agencies who take the piss. The problem with having the Tories in for those on the breadline is that they only get voted in to Parliament in affluent areas. So it's a bit of I'm Alright Jack. Some of them might have a little council estate of oiks somewhere in the constituency but luckily for them they don't bother with politics and they don't ever have to go there so it's ok. This is not Pro-Labour either, I've criticised them lots on here and the thought of Ed Balls as Chancellor puts a shudder down my spine (useless twat) but at least they usually tend to represent poorer constituencies so can't avoid having these issues thrown in their faces therefore having to do something about it, even if a lot of them don't really care either. The bottom line though is the vast majority of low paid or benefit claimants do not and will never use a Foodbank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26802 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Is there a sexier human rights activist around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I'd be all for it. They could even be redeemed in food banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The other hypocritical view taken to Channel 4s programming is that Gogglebox is lauded as an hilarious and insightful look into the lives of ordinary Brits.....we watch the foul mouthed owners of a B&B sit on their couch getting slowly but surely pissed up on G&T, champagne, Vodka, Schnaaps and all sorts, but they're witty educated folk with a nice carpet we're comfortable to laugh along with. Foul mouthed piss heads like the rest of us. A week later we watch foul mouthed Fungi getting pissed up on Kestrel and he's Britains greatest monster. Nothing but contempt for the filthy animal. Did the B&B owners buy their alcohol from their earnings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39166 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Pipe down Skivvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Pipe down Skivvy If i'm a skivvy fuck knows what that makes you. Absolute retarded teaching assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14136 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Absolute retarded teaching assistant A R T A? Perhaps that means Fisty is secretly....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 27534 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Why doesn't people who fucking moan incessantly about scroungers and benefits etc rap their jobs in and join the benefit gravy train? I mean, what's the point of being 'hard working' when you can have everything from the government? Stop moaning, give up your job and be a scrounger yourself. If you aren't quite ready foe the benefit gravy train just yet then do the next best thing and rap your job for one of the many new jobs being created. Surely the law of averages says at least half the new jobs will have wages, terms and conditions as good if not better than your current job? Any takers? No didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobamorisRevenge 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 maybe we should all become open anarchists http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b039086d/The_Naked_Rambler/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Why doesn't people who fucking moan incessantly about scroungers and benefits etc rap their jobs in and join the benefit gravy train? I mean, what's the point of being 'hard working' when you can have everything from the government? Stop moaning, give up your job and be a scrounger yourself. If you aren't quite ready foe the benefit gravy train just yet then do the next best thing and rap your job for one of the many new jobs being created. Surely the law of averages says at least half the new jobs will have wages, terms and conditions as good if not better than your current job? Any takers? No didn't think so. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39166 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 If i'm a skivvy fuck knows what that makes you. Absolute retarded teaching assistant Try again, skivchops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14901 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 lets get this right...des is a plumber for a local authority, surrounded all day by the worst type of spongeing scrounging scumbags the north east has to offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39166 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Not the North East - OOTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 lets get this right...des is a plumber for a local authority, surrounded all day by the worst type of spongeing scrounging scumbags the north east has to offer? With respect they are not all like that. At a rough guess: 30% percent work for a living 50% do even less than monkeys fist and KCG combined weekly output 20% percent pensioners (no idea of previous working status) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39166 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Given that councils countrywide are all being forced into a Skivvy reduction, how would you deal with the self loathing if you found yourself on the dole? God forbid it should happen, but you should know we'd all be here to support you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Given that councils countrywide are all being forced into a Skivvy reduction, how would you deal with the self loathing if you found yourself on the dole? God forbid it should happen, but you should know we'd all be here to support you. I am not directly a council worker. I am a contractor. But should the worst happen i would go on holiday for a month whilst i decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39166 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 You'd go on holiday, then come back and bludge off the State? Think of all the 50" Telly's genuine scroungers could buy with the money YOU would be claiming. For shame, Skiv McSkivington, for shame! I thought you were of a higher calibre than that, put it seems you're just a spud gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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