Howmanheyman 26944 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) 16 and 17 year olds can vote today. which is fucking stupid, I can't imagine my 16 year old self with a vote. My 16 year old self would've been a lot more politically aware than some of the adults I see around me today ages from twenty up to their fifties who glean their facts of todays Britain from The Sun, The Daily Mail, Sofa's UK, Taxi Journal and The Daily Star. Edited September 18, 2014 by Howmanheyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4226 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 My 16 year old self would've been a lot more politically aware than some of the adults I see around me today ages from twenty up to their fifties who glean their facts of todays Britain from The Sun, The Daily Mail and The Daily Star. Fair enough, I don't think mine would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4226 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I live in Newcastle so I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14627 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Who's the kid from Pakistan then? No matter... In the last 25 years former totalitarian regimes and brutally sectarian countries all over the planet have granted the right to vote to all citizens. In the 19th century the US gave former slaves a vote too, yet some on here are suggesting that some folk north of the border aren't clever enough to vote the way you think they should? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4226 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Who's the kid from Pakistan then? No matter... In the last 25 years former totalitarian regimes and brutally sectarian countries all over the planet have granted the right to vote to all citizens. In the 19th century the US gave former slaves a vote too, yet some on here are suggesting that some folk north of the border aren't clever enough to vote the way you think they should? Aimaad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14627 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Democracy isn't perfect by a huge margin, but if you consider yourself civilised its the only game in town. If you don't want to play the door is at Dover. There's plenty coming in who will replace you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 10007 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Edited September 18, 2014 by Sonatine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14627 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Aimaad? Ahh right, cheers Andrew, apologies to both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Who's the kid from Pakistan then? No matter... In the last 25 years former totalitarian regimes and brutally sectarian countries all over the planet have granted the right to vote to all citizens. In the 19th century the US gave former slaves a vote too, yet some on here are suggesting that some folk north of the border aren't clever enough to vote the way you think they should? Ah ok, sorry - I picked up on CT's point with my thinking more along the lines of what people in general do in voting, not specifically Scotland. My bad, it's the wrong thread for it really. I actually think Scottish people are more informed going into this than most would be in a referendum or election, despite all of the unknowns; people are making as informed a judgment as they can - and I don't want them to vote one way or the other, I can see the merits of both sides; stability and continuity for the no, and the chance to tell London to fuck off for the yes (although I haven't seen any convincing arguments for yes beyond this, much as it has my full sympathy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34610 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Proper jockpologist, PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14627 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Proper jockpologist, PL. ultimate fence sitter tbh, fuckin useless in most arguments, can see everyones view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34610 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 From the pov of the NE, I really want them to vote no. But I think if I was Scottish I'd probably vote yes and let the chips fall where they may. It would be great for that cunt Cameron to be the PM responsible for overseeing the breakdown of the union too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It would be great for Cameron to be the PM responsible for overseeing the removal from the union of those dole walling, council house living, lazy, disabled cunts. CTYP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If voting made any difference it would be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) If voting made any difference it would be illegal. Strangely though, this referendum would appear to be one of the few cases where, while it may not make a huge difference to the way people live their lives, a yes vote would be as serious a blow as the establishment have received in some time. I dare say all of the usual influences will get their grubby hands on Scotland in short order, but an independent Scotland is clearly not something they desired. Edited September 18, 2014 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14627 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I agree, and I think the yes campaign has huge merit in lots of ways. The corporates will snuff out a young democracy in this case though. I've got an English brother and sister and a 78 year old English mother all getting a vote (brother is the only yesser, fuckin Stalinist ) to go with the house I own in the village where I was brought up so there's a bit riding on it for me. As I've said, don't let Salmon tear up the union jack, give him the rest though and hope it leads to a sort of "united states of the UK" where all major decisions are mostly made locally and most taxes are collected locally. The US does this, can't see why we can't have full regionalisation in the future. The cats out the bag now like, well done salmon for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It'll be a no anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14627 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Someone at work has just told me that its been reported on radio 2 that an exit poll somewhere or other has come out at 65% in favour of indeoendance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Someone at work has just told me that its been reported on radio 2 that an exit poll somewhere or other has come out at 65% in favour of indeoendance 47 - 53 to No last time I looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34610 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Aye that's what the Guardian are saying the final poll was, but the exit polls will be different. Jock-aye-the-noooooooooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I doubt it, I think it's illegal to report any exit polls while voting is continuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I just can't quite imagine what's going to happen after this - whichever way it goes, one half of the population of Scotland is going to be disappointed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If anything happens to the pound I will personally nuke Schottland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30452 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I doubt it, I think it's illegal to report any exit polls while voting is continuing. Aye, pretty sure it is for general elections anyway. Smells like social media bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14061 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I heard somewhere (great, I know) that there isn't even going to be an exit poll announced on the telly at 10pm like you get in a regular election? No idea if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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