Kitman 2188 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I think people will rapidly lose interest in this now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bictor 0 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 If Scottish devolution leads to English devolution I don't think it'll go away. Especially because it looks like UKIP are going to use this to light a fire under English nationalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bictor 0 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 And Miliband is already backing out :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38828 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Salmond resigns. Spit the dummy out, the big lass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ 0 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 So. Patronised by English people. Milliband is backing out of the mystery box devolution. And Salmond resigns. When I'm most surprised at Salmond resigning, then it says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bictor 0 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 So. Patronised by English people. Milliband is backing out of the mystery box devolution. And Salmond resigns. When I'm most surprised at Salmond resigning, then it says it all. Your best hope now is that we vote out of the EU, Scotland has another referendum and becomes independent to rejoin. In which case, I look forward to living in Scotland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Getting "tasty" in Glasgow according to Kay Burley as yes and no face off each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14068 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Kay Burley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38828 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 CT's object of desire, isn't she? ( after cakes and pies, obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 How stupid do I feel. I've been what this #indyref I keep seeing stood for. Thought it was some cool thing. Just googled it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ 0 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Aye the EU will be a particular sore point, especially if Scotland votes In and the rest of the UK votes out. These horrible arseholes in George Square can't be classed as No voters. They are the horrible face of Loyalists. They're not out to celebrate. They're out to provoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3209 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Getting "tasty" in Glasgow according to Kay Burley as yes and no face off each other. Actually a bunch of fuckwit Rangers fans turned up to cause aggro. Luckily we have cameras pointed all over George Square :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26461 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 More details of the bet I put on. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29314400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14068 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 He's got a point though. I know people who'll place similar sums on Ukraine and Russia qualifying for the Eurovision final every year. On the surface it's an obscene amount of money they're putting on the line, and yet every reasonable indicator leads them to the obvious conclusion (and one that pays off several years of their mortgage) time and time again. You just have to have the balls to do it, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14068 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Mind, the Swedish far-right got 13% in the latest elections, so they're hardly perfect. And they've just chosen a racist homophobic former neo-Nazi skinhead from said party as one of the deputy speakers in their parliament. That's liberal democracy for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 never know whatt you'll get - remember the Speaker in Gordo's time - a Glaswegian nonentity, time serving union man with the intelligence of a whelk................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3209 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 never know whatt you'll get - remember the Speaker in Gordo's time - a Glaswegian nonentity, time serving union man with the intelligence of a whelk................. You're Michael Martin?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 "hic, hic, fart, fart "- you 've broken my cover Kevin!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14636 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 i've found CT....who knew?? http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/alan/scottish-independence-is-coming_b_5970516.html Good article actually, think its general point is good but theres large swathes of Scotland that would never vote SNP in any election. Spot on abour Labour though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3209 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 i've found CT....who knew?? http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/alan/scottish-independence-is-coming_b_5970516.html Good article actually, think its general point is good but theres large swathes of Scotland that would never vote SNP in any election. Spot on abour Labour though. The Snp are the only party to win an outright majority in an election specifically designed to avoid them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ 0 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 In 2011 the SNP profited big time from the collapse of the Lib Dems and the complacency of Labour. The Lib Dem collapse left literally hundreds of thousands of votes to be won. The SNP campaigned hard to give those old Liberal Democrat voters a home, whereas Labour just assumed they would naturally gravitate to them. Even after the election Labour spent the whole time blaming the Lib Dems instead of actually figuring out why they didn't capitalise on a large chunk of the electorate just sitting there waiting to be won over. Holyrood could be controlled by the SNP for a long long time. They really need to figure out their direction though. They are a real broad church when it comes to views and policy. But with the continued collapse of the Lib Dems and the erosion of support for Scottish Labour, it's theirs to control for as long as they don't screw it up. Ironically, the only unionist party who won't take a hit from the independence referendum will be the Tories. All indication is that there were a higher percentage of SNP supporters who voted No than Tories who voted Yes. I don't see them ever coming to prominence any time soon in Scotland, but there's an opportunity for them to do a little better in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26461 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 SNP plans for an independent Scotland were based around an oil price of $113 a barrel while the actual price of oil has just dipped under $50 a barrel. Would any of the Yes voters on here have changed their mind had they known this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3209 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 SNP plans for an independent Scotland were based around an oil price of $113 a barrel while the actual price of oil has just dipped under $50 a barrel. Would any of the Yes voters on here have changed their mind had they known this? No for me it wasn't about money it was about self determination. However I think I am a minority in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26461 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 So you would have accepted a fall in living standards in return for independence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9015 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 So you would have accepted a fall in living standards in return for independence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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