Ken 119 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 We are now at a stage where we see pure evil. What has transpired before was evel enough but in pure Russian style we will see reports of indiscriminate killing (already begun) and rape and pillaging. True Russian evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6308 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, Gemmill said: This fucking dickhead Melville btw. What an utter cunt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17825 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Cheers for the kind words again guys. I'm sort of okay really, yesterday was the end of a chapter and from now I'm going to be proactive in looking after my physical and mental health. But yeah, the matter at hand. I don't have a problem admitting I was wrong. Putin has taken everything further than I imagined possible. Give him an inch and he takes.a mile. I'm increasingly of the opinion now we have to directly support the people of the Ukraine and engage Russia in war. I think we'd have complete air superiority and we could send him packing. If this triggers nuclear conflict, and I agree it probably won't (but of course might), it's a risk we should now take. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19838 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, Renton said: Cheers for the kind words again guys. I'm sort of okay really, yesterday was the end of a chapter and from now I'm going to be proactive in looking after my physical and mental health. But yeah, the matter at hand. I don't have a problem admitting I was wrong. Putin has taken everything further than I imagined possible. Give him an inch and he takes.a mile. I'm increasingly of the opinion now we have to directly support the people of the Ukraine and engage Russia in war. I think we'd have complete air superiority and we could send him packing. If this triggers nuclear conflict, and I agree it probably won't (but of course might), it's a risk we should now take. i don't think it would have if we'd acted before the invasion, though it could have sparked a new cold war. but now we have a very hot war in europe, we have fewer options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30452 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 36 minutes ago, Craig said: What an utter cunt! Hmm, I wonder who funds him and his ilk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 41 minutes ago, Renton said: Cheers for the kind words again guys. I'm sort of okay really, yesterday was the end of a chapter and from now I'm going to be proactive in looking after my physical and mental health. But yeah, the matter at hand. I don't have a problem admitting I was wrong. Putin has taken everything further than I imagined possible. Give him an inch and he takes.a mile. I'm increasingly of the opinion now we have to directly support the people of the Ukraine and engage Russia in war. I think we'd have complete air superiority and we could send him packing. If this triggers nuclear conflict, and I agree it probably won't (but of course might), it's a risk we should now take. I also feel this way fwiw but I'm also very glad it isn't my decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: I also feel this way fwiw but I'm also very glad it isn't my decision. Its too early for that. Way too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14626 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 42 minutes ago, Renton said: Cheers for the kind words again guys. I'm sort of okay really, yesterday was the end of a chapter and from now I'm going to be proactive in looking after my physical and mental health. But yeah, the matter at hand. I don't have a problem admitting I was wrong. Putin has taken everything further than I imagined possible. Give him an inch and he takes.a mile. I'm increasingly of the opinion now we have to directly support the people of the Ukraine and engage Russia in war. I think we'd have complete air superiority and we could send him packing. If this triggers nuclear conflict, and I agree it probably won't (but of course might), it's a risk we should now take. That was my first instinct and despite a bit of a wobble thus week I've come back to the opinion that conflict is inevitable. Its a massive risk but if we don't oppose him now he's going to attack the NATO protected Baltic states. I still think we should surround his positions in Kallinigrad. We're not giving him something else to think about, we need to draw his attention away from Ukraine. You need to attack a gangsters loved ones to get his attention...its the only language they understand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 China can get to fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: China can get to fuck. There will be war with China soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13881 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Lots of Chinese money laundering in Britain too. My sister worked for a certain cafe in Newcastle and their losses were massive even on a weekly basis, it was entirely used as a visa scam for the Chinese woman “running” it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14626 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just now, Ken said: There will be war with China soon. You fuckin convicts can kick their fuckin arses for us Ken. We're going to be a bit busy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just now, PaddockLad said: You fuckin convicts can kick their fuckin arses for us Ken. We're going to be a bit busy Unfortunately not. They are churning out navy ships faster than I can say stop. The US know this. They will go all out in the Pacific but not in Europe. Time to get your sailor hat and try to get some support going mate. What is France doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tom said: Lots of Chinese money laundering in Britain too. My sister worked for a certain cafe in Newcastle and their losses were massive even on a weekly basis, it was entirely used as a visa scam for the Chinese woman “running” it. The Chinese see themselves as the dominant power. Russia us the junior oarsmen because they need money. Russia beg China. That's the world in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14626 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ken said: Unfortunately not. They are churning out navy ships faster than I can say stop. The US know this. They will go all out in the Pacific but not in Europe. Time to get your sailor hat and try to get some support going mate. What is France doing? Has to be NATO in Europe. That must include the US. Biden will have to face this soon I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, PaddockLad said: Has to be NATO in Europe. That must include the US. Biden will have to face this soon I think. Na sorry. I know you are wrong. Russia's GDP is nothing. It is a European problem. If Europe can't sort this out that's Europe's fault. China are the main problem. America will invest more in this theatre. Point us America can't be in both a European and Pacific theatre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14626 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ken said: Na sorry. I know you are wrong. Russia's GDP is nothing. It is a European problem. If Europe can't sort this out that's Europe's fault. China are the main problem. America will invest more in this theatre. Point us America can't be in both a European and Pacific theatre. If Putin isn't stopped he dominates the third biggest commercial market/trading bloc on the planet ie the EU. That eventually gets the attention of the US if you ask me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 If China, the US and Russia end up in the same war there'll be nukes flying all over the place - not sure particular theatres will matter at that point. If it came down to a simultaneous conventional war with both China and Russia then I think Ken is right, the US will focus on China. Not sure that's definitively where we're heading though, not yet at least. Those countries have a lot to lose from that outcome too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, PaddockLad said: If Putin isn't stopped he dominates the third biggest commercial market/trading bloc on the planet ie the EU. That eventually gets the attention of the US if you ask me... So what is the EU doing about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34606 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Fucking lazy do-nowt Aussie sitting on the sidelines shouting the odds. What are YOU doing Kenneth? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 The EU needs to federalise and formerly militarise. But then I've been saying that for years. It cannot survive as a small group of semi co-dependent countries, not in the face of global superpowers being forged. As a properly unified group, it's a force to be reckoned with. As a group of smaller states it's going to be taken apart one at a time. Ironically, for stuff like Brexit to have stood any chance of working, we needed internationalism and dependency on the markets of other countries to be upheld. Once that goes out of the window, existing as a an independent nation is off the table altogether IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17825 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Fucking lazy do-nowt Aussie sitting on the sidelines shouting the odds. What are YOU doing Kenneth? Also what's the frequency. Absolutely ridiculous to suggest any European conflict is somehow localised. Ukraine has twice the population of Oz. Russia has more than enough nuclear weapons to throw over to Australia and even New Zealand. China is a fucking huge issue, but for me there's nothing to suggest that Jinping is off his rocker in the same way as Putin is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Fucking lazy do-nowt Aussie sitting on the sidelines shouting the odds. What are YOU doing Kenneth? Yeah your govt has done nothing outside of the EU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14626 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ken said: So what is the EU doing about this? They don't have an army Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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