NJS 3986 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 If Pence isn't involved in any shite he'll be president - see Ford with Nixon. If Pence is impeached as well then it'll be Ryan as leader of the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Ryan?? Yikes... Pence looks too cowardly to be involved in this stuff IMO. It's a shame though, because if an election re-run were a possibility, maybe we could get Sanders. Although there's an equal chance it'd be Hillary I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26506 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Pence is smart enough not to be taken down by it. Totally coincidentally he registered a PAC this week. Forward thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3986 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Pence is another Bush - with extra nasty religiosity. I think Bush (the younger obviously) was a semi-decent person for a Republican with some extremely dodgy fuckers around him. I think Pence would be similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) It would transform the principle of a Trump government though. It would just be another off the shelf Republican package. Not saying that's a bad thing, but it'll not alleviate the frustrations that brought us here which, crazy as he is, Trump stood a chance of doing. Edited May 18, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14083 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Trump never stood a chance of benefiting anyone other than Trump. That he managed to sell this as some kind of revolution/rebellion against the status quo is to his strategists' eternal credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30487 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Says an awful lot about Hilary too mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Meenzer said: Trump never stood a chance of benefiting anyone other than Trump. That he managed to sell this as some kind of revolution/rebellion against the status quo is to his strategists' eternal credit. Agreed, but him being there acts as a pressure release. No one on offer was ever actually going to change anything for anyone - but if enough people believe that Trump has, or has tried to, it might settle down the anti-establishment sentiment again. If he's ousted 4 months in, a decent number of them will think it's a stitch up. Moreover, even if they don't we'll have to re-run this fiasco with someone quite possibly more dangerous, in 5 years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Alex said: Says an awful lot about Hilary too mind I've thought about this a lot over the past few months, and I think Hillary would have won previous elections if she'd beaten Obama in the run off. I think she would have won vs. Bush junior too. Times have changed though. Edited May 18, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30487 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 42 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I've thought about this a lot over the past few months, and I think Hillary would have won previous elections if she'd beaten Obama in the run off. I think she would have won vs. Bush junior too. Times have changed though. I agree but a more popular candidate would've beaten Trump too I think. That article posted recently about how voters were just a means to an end and how she was the type of establishment politician who liked to cosy up to big business behind closed doors at exclusive events and so on seemed both accurate and also how she is perceived. Shame Sanders never had a chance to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26506 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: No one on offer was ever actually going to change anything for anyone I dunno. Trump could well snatch healthcare from millions of people. That's a bit of a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2786 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 "BREAKING: US official confirms to @BuzzFeedNews that the US-led Coalition hit Assad regime forces with air strikes in southern Syria today." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2786 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Flynn and other advisers to Trump’s campaign were in contact w/ Russian officials and others w/ Kremlin ties in at least 18 calls & emails during April and November 2016, according to Reuters. This cover is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38866 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Let's say Trump gets impeached over the Russia investigation- its proven he was aware/complicit, for example. That would then mean Pence, as VP, becomes Prez. So, if Pence is also implicated, would that then mean a new election, or is there a "Deputy VP"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Someone mentioned above; it's speaker of the house, Paul Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38866 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Cheers. (Opening line to his inaugural speech " Hello fellow kids!" ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26506 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 It may not necessarily be Ryan. If Pence had enough time to appoint a new VP then it would be the new VP who would take over as President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Pretty sure it's Kiefer Sutherland after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19844 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 22 hours ago, Meenzer said: Trump never stood a chance of benefiting anyone other than Trump. That he managed to sell this as some kind of revolution/rebellion against the status quo is to his strategists' eternal credit. Absolutely. Some of Parky and rayvin's comments in this thread haven been laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3986 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 50 minutes ago, adios said: Pretty sure it's Kiefer Sutherland after that. Or Jon Goodman. I wonder if Trump ever bothered watching The West Wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2786 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Communicating with Sauron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14083 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30487 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 11 hours ago, Rayvin said: Communicating with Sauron? Playing Family Fortunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14083 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alex said: Playing Family Fortunes "Turkey!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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