Rayvin 4964 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 No. To see why, see how Meenzer fixed my post. I've genuinely lost a lot of faith in humanity. Â You and me both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14136 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Even if the pendulum swings back - and it's an open question as we face the impact of human-induced overcrowding, resource scarcity and environmental meltdown, quite aside from piffling social factors like politics and religious conflict - I wouldn't necessarily reckon on it happening within my lifetime. Â Looks like I picked the wrong decade to quit drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26793 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Well this is just the fucking pick me up I needed on a Tuesday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20140 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30762 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 How is everyone in this thread not just nodding in agreement that this man is a giant fucking psycopathic cunt? There's no argument about this ffs. Stop trying to have one. Just join me in hoping that he dies very soon. You wanted him to win though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20140 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 [tweet] [/tweet] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35468 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 You wanted him to win though I thought it would be funnier than it is. [emoji38] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) Even if the pendulum swings back - and it's an open question as we face the impact of human-induced overcrowding, resource scarcity and environmental meltdown, quite aside from piffling social factors like politics and religious conflict - I wouldn't necessarily reckon on it happening within my lifetime. Â Looks like I picked the wrong decade to quit drinking. Â In the UK I think you're dead right. Brexit will be a slow burner and it'll take a long time to resolve. In the States I'm not so sure. I think Trump will be a short lived, crazy fiasco, and I think it primes the way for a really progressive, Sanders esque candidate to come in on his heels offering 'hope, freedom and never again shall we blah blah blah'. The risk with Trump is that the losers previously in charge take his rejection as tacit endorsement of what they'd been doing previously, and set the scene for a repeat. Â EDIT - or he forms a fascist dictatorship of course. Then we'll end up being 'liberated' by the Chinese or something. Edited January 31, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30762 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I thought it would be funnier than it is. [emoji38] Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20140 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Even if the pendulum swings back - and it's an open question as we face the impact of human-induced overcrowding, resource scarcity and environmental meltdown, quite aside from piffling social factors like politics and religious conflict - I wouldn't necessarily reckon on it happening within my lifetime. Â Looks like I picked the wrong decade to quit drinking. [tweet][/tweet] Â Â there is hope for humanity. you have to make the basic assumption that there are more good people in the world than nutcases. Â [tweet]https://twitter.com/GideonTurk/status/826277507741646848[/tweet] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20140 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 In the UK I think you're dead right. Brexit will be a slow burner and it'll take a long time to resolve. In the States I'm not so sure. I think Trump will be a short lived, crazy fiasco, and I think it primes the way for a really progressive, Sanders esque candidate to come in on his heels offering 'hope, freedom and never again shall we blah blah blah'. The risk with Trump is that the losers previously in charge take his rejection as tacit endorsement of what they'd been doing previously, and set the scene for a repeat.  EDIT - or he forms a fascist dictatorship of course. Then we'll end up being 'liberated' by the Chinese or something.  i don't think the states will ever elect a proper socialist like sanders. the best we can hope for is a centrist like clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) They would have elected Sanders, according to the polls, if he had gone up against Trump. It's the DNC's arrogance that has given us Trump. And the single reason that I get so worked up about the centre. I think the simple truth is that the centre's bread is buttered better by a right wing fuckwit like Trump than it is by someone on the left. So whenever they're faced with one of the two, they strive to take down the one on the left. Edited January 31, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26793 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I never thought they'd elect a nut like Trump but we live in strange times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26793 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 They would have elected Sanders, according to the polls, if he had gone up against Trump. It's the DNC's arrogance that has given us Trump. Â The same polls that had Hillary as the easy winner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20140 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 They would have elected Sanders, according to the polls, if he had gone up against Trump. It's the DNC's arrogance that has given us Trump. And the single reason that I get so worked up about the centre. I think the simple truth is that the centre's bread is buttered better by a right wing fuckwit like Trump than it is by someone on the left. So whenever they're faced with one of the two, they strive to take down the one on the left.  nah, i can't blame the dnc for trump. hillary won the popular vote by 3m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The same polls that had Hillary as the easy winner? Â Heh, probably. But as I've said in other posts, 17% of the people who actually voted for Trump, did so despite him being a 'not qualified for office'. If that doesn't scream 'I'm voting for something, anything that isn't the status quo' I don't know what does. And I'm fairly certain that 17% would have gone straight to Sanders based on the same principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 nah, i can't blame the dnc for trump. hillary won the popular vote by 3m.  Which is, as we all know, actually meaningless. I mean fair enough, don't blame them. But they're being subjected to a grassroots takeover for their incompetence right now, which actively does blame them. They lost the Presidency, the House and the Senate, and 69 of 99 state legislators. They were totally fucking annihilated. At what point do they have to take responsibility for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26793 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 . And I'm fairly certain that 17% would have gone straight to Sanders based on the same principle. Â And I'm fairly certain that's fag packet political science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12896 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Don't worry, lads. When the robot workforce is finally assembled, then we'll all be fucked anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3279 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 In the UK I think you're dead right. Brexit will be a slow burner and it'll take a long time to resolve. In the States I'm not so sure. I think Trump will be a short lived, crazy fiasco, and I think it primes the way for a really progressive, Sanders esque candidate to come in on his heels offering 'hope, freedom and never again shall we blah blah blah'. The risk with Trump is that the losers previously in charge take his rejection as tacit endorsement of what they'd been doing previously, and set the scene for a repeat. Â EDIT - or he forms a fascist dictatorship of course. Then we'll end up being 'liberated' by the Chinese or something. Â I like noodles more than burgers so that suits me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 And I'm fairly certain that's fag packet political science.  Well until another viable rationale comes along for it, I'm considering it likely. Why do you think that specific 17% voted for him then? I'll also point out that there was a 16% swing to Trump from working class people who voted for Obama. Could those people have voted for Sanders? Is that unlikely?  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-voters-who-heavily-supported-obama-switched-over-to-trump/2016/11/10/65019658-a77a-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html?utm_term=.15fc0867d11f  This is a good article that demonstrates Hillary consistently lost to Sanders in working class areas, lost to Obama in the primaries before this one in the same areas, and that these areas went and turned to Trump in 2016. Despite having voted Democrat every election since 1972, in the case of one of them in their case study.  I mean come on. Why are you guys so determined to protect these failed, washed up losers? The centreground simply didn't care, and this nightmare happened on its watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Don't worry, lads. When the robot workforce is finally assembled, then we'll all be fucked anyway   I think I've mentioned mind, that the UN...or maybe it was the EU... was discussing giving them human rights. Which would be an intriguing development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 You can't tax a robot workforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18038 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 It's Obama's fault, it the DNC's fault, it's Hilary's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4263 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think it might by Donald Trumps fault since he is clearly a massive turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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