Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER

[Kid Dynamite 9340]

@ewerk feel free to poach Carsley btw 

[ewerk 39233]

“You can’t just appoint the U21 managers”

 

”Well former U21 managers have just won the last two major international tournaments”

 

”OMG that’s completely different. It doesn’t count. Don’t try to bamboozle me with actual facts”

 

It’s like some people on here don’t appreciate the education they get from me.

[The Fish 12574]

Look, it's very very simple. The FA wants an up and coming coach, who's got a long history of winning things, who has a good relationship with established internationals, but doesn't have any favourites. Whose first eleven is young and thrilling and experienced and assured. 

 

And by God he best be from England's green and pleasant land.

[ewerk 39233]

1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said:

@ewerk feel free to poach Carsley btw 

He already turned us down. Which really does speak to his good judgement.

[Alex 42149]

29 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

The Daily Mail's take. I fucking despise the press in this country. 

Them and the people who lap that dreck up are the huge silver lining when England fails to win a major tournament. I also think there’d be a completely different spin being put on his track record if he was joining Man Utd instead. There’s loads of precedent for foreign managers doing international jobs too of course. Although English exceptionalism and thinly veiled xenophobia is that paper’s default 

Edited October 16, 2024 by Alex

[Gemmill 63200]

Just now, Alex said:

Then and people who lap that dreck up are the huge silver lining when England fails to win a major tournament. I also think there’d be a completely different spin being put on his track record if he was joining Man Utd instead. There’s loads of precedent for foreign managers doing international jobs too if course. Although English exceptionalism and thinly veiled xenophobia is that paper’s default 

 

Aye I almost said "I hope he wins the world cup" when I posted that, but it's not like that paper wouldn't expect to be forgiven for every shitty thing they'd written about the bloke if he did. 

[Dr Gloom 26353]

tuchel is probably the best manager in international football after this appointment in terms of club success. 

[Dazzler 16199]

The football is going to be a Southgate level of gash to watch. Klopp 2.0 he is not - despite him being touted as such early in his career.

 

That being said, he'd not shit the bed if he leads us to a major final, and would set up a team to win even if it is 1-0 and fucking turgid.

 

Tuchel would have at least won the covid Euros - I am certain of that.

[Toonpack 15593]

Another manager handed the chance of glory with the golden generation at his disposal, a much better golden generation than the last golden generation but probably not as brilliant as the next golden generation. 

[PaddockLad 22498]

14 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

Another manager handed the chance of glory with the golden generation at his disposal, a much better golden generation than the last golden generation but probably not as brilliant as the next golden generation. 

I think this is a lot to do with it… the FA have looked at the talent available at the moment and can’t seriously see Carsley in charge of Jude Bellingham and Angel Gomes in spite of his success with the U21s. The alternative was Lampard or Gerrard who’d get respect in the changing room but have been shown to be fuckin useless. Once they’ve been ruled out it was a simple decision. 
 

They might as well shut that St George’s gaff down. The clubs produce the players but can’t produce the coaches. Because there’s huge money on offer to foreign coaches in the PL who have proved themselves to be canny operators on the continent. Are Brentford going to appoint Mark Robins or Michael Carrick if Franck was to go to Man Utd? There’s your problem. The FA have done what the clubs do, get the best man for the job with the (in this case considerable) money on offer  

[The Fish 12574]

International football is boring as shit, of course it is. It's knockout football, so you're better off with an excellent defensive outfit, rather than an exciting team. The coaches have little time to work with their players and it's probably wiser to spend that little time working on defensive responsibilities and shapes and relying on the natural ability of your forward to provide the goals.

[RobinRobin 14502]

3 hours ago, Alex said:

Yeah, all fair points. 
Allardyce was Ashworth’s man too. Hopefully he continues to get his way and Allardyce is next up at Man Utd 

Hopefully'dYP

[Dazzler 16199]

12 minutes ago, RobinRobin said:

Hopefully'dYP

Absolutely not - Southgate has to get it. Southgate at club level is hilariously bad.

 

Allardyce would probably win them a league cup along with a top twelve finish and we'd quite literally never hear the end of it - from him or his pals in the press - even after he gets the bullet. Southgate relegates them.

[wykikitoon 28542]

[Ayatollah Hermione 17238]

I have no issue with the FA going for an established coach who can take a group of players that is pretty much ready to be and has come very close to, winning a tournament and give it another crack. It’s never going to be that easy, obviously but he’s someone that will definitely have a good plan for how to play and won’t be shoehorning players in to a lopsided tactic. I’m pretty sure we won’t be starting the World Cup with a right back in charge of the whole left side, for instance. What is more of a worry is that he falls out with every cunt and you can see him giving a bit back to the press and it all ending in tears 

[wykikitoon 28542]

1 hour ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

I have no issue with the FA going for an established coach who can take a group of players that is pretty much ready to be and has come very close to, winning a tournament and give it another crack. It’s never going to be that easy, obviously but he’s someone that will definitely have a good plan for how to play and won’t be shoehorning players in to a lopsided tactic. I’m pretty sure we won’t be starting the World Cup with a right back in charge of the whole left side, for instance. What is more of a worry is that he falls out with every cunt and you can see him giving a bit back to the press and it all ending in tears 

I hope ends the Liverpool players in England kit first

[Dazzler 16199]

I have no problem with Liverpool players that deserve to be there. I just can’t think of any at the minute. 
 

If I never have to see Arnold out of position over hitting a pass again he’s an upgrade on the last two hacks that lead the national team.

[Howmanheyman 43933]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Let's talk about me, baby

Let's talk about me, Davey

Let's talk about all the good things 

And the bad things that make me 

Let's talk about me,

Let's talk about me.

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[ewerk 39233]

8 hours ago, spongebob toonpants said:

 

You mean this for the Yes Gemmill thread?

[wykikitoon 28542]

10 hours ago, Howmanheyman said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

🎶

Let's talk about me, baby

Let's talk about me, Davey

Let's talk about all the good things 

And the bad things that make me 

Let's talk about me,

Let's talk about me.

🎵

 

 

Some of the replies 😂

[Tdansmith 3260]

This reply....

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[Alex 42149]

Even his Greek/Danish dad was actually German 

[LondonBlue 1141]

On 15/10/2024 at 16:47, ewerk said:

It's a fucking disgrace. My grandfather didn't fight in WW2, killing hundreds, only to have one of his countrymen take the England job.

 

Confused, did your grandfather fight in WW2 or didn't he?

[Alex 42149]

You might want to read that one back