Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER

[GrahamTaylor5 1783]

2 minutes ago, Alex said:

He put a Christian message on, which I think he was asked not to do. I agree with what you say but on that basis either wear it or  don’t. Seems like he wanted to have it both ways. Tbh, I wish people would just say they disagree with homosexuality instead of hiding behind religion. I don’t condone the view but at least it’s honest. 

I don't think the message showed homosexuality. He still wore the arm band which he didn’t have to do. 

 

Maybe it was his way if saying the two are not mutually exclusive which they are not.

 

I think this is the thing with forcing people to wear something.

[GrahamTaylor5 1783]

2 minutes ago, sammynb said:

 

It was the religious message, which is banned from being on display within the PL. Now I hate all religions, so each to their own but if he had of put a betting logo or alcohol logo on the armband, he would have been fine and that's fucking ludicrious.

I think it is double standards. 

 

I 100% agree that religion should not be shown in sport as it is not the place. 

 

I don't think players should be wearing a poppy or a rainbow either. 

 

I am all for both causes but both are political and shouldn't be forced on people.

[Alex 42155]

Just now, GrahamTaylor5 said:

I don't think the message showed homosexuality. He still wore the arm band which he didn’t have to do. 

 

Maybe it was his way if saying the two are not mutually exclusive which they are not.

 

I think this is the thing with forcing people to wear something.

Yeah. That’s a good point actually. And fair enough. Same sec marriage is allowed in lots of churches now, you can be gay and be one of the clergy etc. 

[PaddockLad 22505]

14 minutes ago, Alex said:

I reckon it’s Radcliffe. Which bodes well if so. He seems to think he can just hire and fire like it’s any other business. Football’s a different animal because there’s a smaller pool of those with the expertise, access to scouting networks and (probably most importantly) the right agents. And while it couldn’t happen to a nicer cunt, if you think someone is the right person for that sort of role then surely you recognise it’s a long term project. He’s been there one window. I know they spent a lot in the summer and there’s not much to show for it on the evidence so far. But what if the new manager gets a tune out of the few signings and they turn out to be good ones? 
Hilarious though, obviously 

Yeah I remember a (rare) Mike Ashley interview where he said something along the lines of “if I drop 5/10 mill on a project I expect to see pretty much immediate improvement” it was when Pardew was manager I think. Ratcliffe may well turn out to be Ashley in overalls  

[sammynb 4171]

11 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Yeah I remember a (rare) Mike Ashley interview where he said something along the lines of “if I drop 5/10 mill on a project I expect to see pretty much immediate improvement” it was when Pardew was manager I think. Ratcliffe may well turn out to be Ashley in overalls  

 

I still cannot believe old Mike was a squash champion or some such shite - unless it was him just sitting on soft fruit and stuff type squash!

[Gemmill 63243]

Fucking hell I missed the news about Ashworth. I think this is probably quite a big mistake from Ratcliffe and I enthusiastically applaud it. 

[Alex 42155]

Ashley was a county squash player when he was younger I think. It’s difficult to believe Steve Bruce was once a top class centre half when you see him now I suppose. 
Re: the Ashley/Radcliffe comparisons. It’s a sign of his huge arrogance that  the latter thought all he had to do was rock up apply some ‘business practices’ and Man Utd would be great again. He’s fired staff and put the ticket prices up. As though that does owt when you’ve got Rashford and Antony on £300k/ £200k a week anyway. Quite apart from making zero difference on the pitch 

[Dr Gloom 26363]

Wheel spoke wanker 

[MrBass 4205]

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

Wheel spoke wanker 

 

Bit harsh, I think Alex talks a lot of sense on here tbh 

[Gemmill 63243]

31 minutes ago, Alex said:

Ashley was a county squash player when he was younger I think. It’s difficult to believe Steve Bruce was once a top class centre half when you see him now I suppose. 
Re: the Ashley/Radcliffe comparisons. It’s a sign of his huge arrogance that  the latter thought all he had to do was rock up apply some ‘business practices’ and Man Utd would be great again. He’s fired staff and put the ticket prices up. As though that does owt when you’ve got Rashford and Antony on £300k/ £200k a week anyway. Quite apart from making zero difference on the pitch 

 

"Once I've got the cost base down, this baby will really start to purr" 

[Gemmill 63243]

"You don't win trophies with remote working." 

[Gemmill 63243]

"Preenteeism is our identity."

[Alex 42155]

7 minutes ago, MrBass said:

 

Bit harsh, I think Alex talks a lot of sense on here tbh 

It’s certainly inaccurate. I don’t even own a bike 

[Gemmill 63243]

Re Guehi, @GrahamTaylor5 it seems overwhelmingly likely to me that his "I love Jesus" carried the subtext "so I'm not down with this rainbow shit". 

[PaddockLad 22505]

1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

Re Guehi, @GrahamTaylor5 it seems overwhelmingly likely to me that his "I love Jesus" carried the subtext "so I'm not down with this rainbow shit". 

That was certainly my reading of what he meant  

[Dazzler 16205]

99% of cases where someone is asked about LGBT issues or support and they bring Jesus into the mix for no reason they are homophobic cunts. 

 

I’m willing to bet Guehi is no different, although accept I could be a mile off with my assumption.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4949]

4 hours ago, GrahamTaylor5 said:

I think it is double standards. 

 

I 100% agree that religion should not be shown in sport as it is not the place. 

 

I don't think players should be wearing a poppy or a rainbow either. 

 

I am all for both causes but both are political and shouldn't be forced on people.

Isn’t that the motto of the premier league?

[GrahamTaylor5 1783]

2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

Re Guehi, @GrahamTaylor5 it seems overwhelmingly likely to me that his "I love Jesus" carried the subtext "so I'm not down with this rainbow shit". 

From what I have look into, he has not said anything single thing against LGBT. 

[Gemmill 63243]

Well there's a lot of speculation that what he did was homophobic and he hasn't made a peep to put anyone right on that front. 

[Howmanheyman 43942]

17 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Well there's a lot of speculation that what he did was homophobic and he hasn't made a peep to put anyone right on that front. 

 

Maybe the Christian CB doth protest too much?

[Gemmill 63243]

Antonio has had surgery on a broken leg. At 34, that's probably him retired by that, I would have thought. Could have been a lot worse tbf. 

[spongebob toonpants 5193]

Guehi can fuck right off for me, the god bothering bigoted prick

 

Right up until he signs when  I will appreciate  his brave principled stance

[Dazzler 16205]

3 hours ago, Howmanheyman said:

 

Maybe the Christian CB doth protest too much?

[Chaser 1919]

I personally do not care whether someone is gay or not, people should be left alone to do whatever they want as consenting adults, but if I'm given a choice, I'm not wearing a rainbow armband. I don't wish to promote sexuality in my job because I don't see it relevant in the industry I'm in (yet they push it), same as I don't see how sport should be virtue signalling certain sectors of society and not others. I get that the incessant campaign by Stonewall has improved the acceptance of others, but then I think we've gone far beyond just loving men or women to acquiescing with mental health and trying to see that as normal just because they link it with sexuality. Guehi for me is hiding behind religion but then I don't think any employed footballer would dare say anything different because they'd be cancelled by their club and by the loud vocal minority on social media. I don't think anyone should be forced to promote something else against their will, otherwise all we are doing is shutting down the right to  and individual opinion.

[Andrew 7482]

If anyone IS wondering, Guehis father decided to make the subtext into just regular text this week. 
 

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Did he offend anyone? He did the right thing by wearing the rainbow armband but people are having a go at him for what he wrote. He was just trying to balance the message. He was saying 'You gave me the armband, as a Christian I don't believe in your cause, but I'll put it on'.

Nailed on. Really hope we don't go back in for him.