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1 hour ago, Craig said:

Postecoglou sacked :lol:


That’s annoying. I was looking forward to playing against his suicidal high line again next season to see if things were still fair and equal

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Scott Carson is leaving Man City. An absolute club legend who has won four Premier League titles, a Champions League, two League Cups, two Community Shields, the Club World Cup and the UEFA Supercup. And he deserved every one of them.

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What am I missing about this club world championship? Why do the PL clubs competing suddenly appear to give a shit about it? I always thought it was a bit of a joke, treated seriously by the giants of Mt. Maunganui FC, but kinda a bit silly for everyone else.

 

*Fuck Tauranga AFC by the way. Biggest plastic fans of the entire Waikato.

 

**disclaimer none of these clubs actually exist, at least as far as I know.

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3 minutes ago, toonotl said:

What am I missing about this club world championship? Why do the PL clubs competing suddenly appear to give a shit about it? I always thought it was a bit of a joke, treated seriously by the giants of Mt. Maunganui FC, but kinda a bit silly for everyone else.

 

*Fuck Tauranga AFC by the way. Biggest plastic fans of the entire Waikato.

 

**disclaimer none of these clubs actually exist, at least as far as I know.


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winners get £100m

 

 

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8 hours ago, ewerk said:

Scott Carson is leaving Man City. An absolute club legend who has won four Premier League titles, a Champions League, two League Cups, two Community Shields, the Club World Cup and the UEFA Supercup. And he deserved every one of them.

 

the man won a trophy every 9.8 minutes. an absolute legend and loved by all at city

 

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1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said:


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winners get £100m

 

 

 

Mystery solved. I should've known. A new way to siphon off the cream to the elite European clubs in exchange for clogging up the calendar with more meaningless tournament football. Got it. 100m! That's a mental amount of money for what is essentially a complete laughing stock of a tournament. Why don't the European clubs just play each other and save everyone else some time? Of course, I know why: $$$

 

It's honestly so pathetic the way sport is going. It's the same across basically every sport I watch. Everything is geared towards making more money for the assholes at the top. Fans, players, grassroots and tradition be damned. Sports administration has followed the "legitimization" model established by the fuckin' Sicilian Mafia.

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13 minutes ago, toonotl said:

 

 

It's honestly so pathetic the way sport is going. It's the same across basically every sport I watch. Everything is geared towards making more money for the assholes at the top. Fans, players, grassroots and tradition be damned. Sports administration has followed the "legitimization" model established by the fuckin' Sicilian Mafia.

 

You think this is a recent thing? The vast majority of "elite" sports leagues have essentially been two-horse races since the dawn of time. The two favourite horses change periodically and the financial backing adjusts accordingly, but it's always been a big human cattle market. 

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15 minutes ago, Blastronaut said:

You think this is a recent thing? The vast majority of "elite" sports leagues have essentially been two-horse races since the dawn of time. The two favourite horses change periodically and the financial backing adjusts accordingly, but it's always been a big human cattle market. 

 

I'm not really talking about individual sports teams in isolation but more so about sports administrators taking kickbacks in exchange for favours done to the sports big teams. It's a matter of cooperative corruption at this point. (Not that I'm suggesting that is "new", of course not). But I do think that it is relatively new in terms of scope and public-facing justifications used to promote it. It basically aligns, in my opinion, with a new level of marketing savvy that corporations use in an age of social media and "alternative facts". 

 

As an aside, with the latent threat of the European Super League still fresh in the mind of these administrative bodies, there is a new silent motivation for keeping the big clubs happy. And that is certainly something different given the amounts of money involved.

 

I do also think that post-Covid in particular there is a new emphasis on "expansionism" in sport/business to maximise profits for stakeholders, yes. I didn't suggest it was a "new" development since it is in accordance with the general impetus of capitalist interest. I would've thought that should go without saying that I don't believe that sport has invented the notion of unfair competition. I wasn't born yesterday. But in terms of degree rather than kind, coupled with "legitimization" tactics build around marketing spin in a world where "truth" has fallen by the wayside, I do think these are semi-recent developments.

 

It seems that corporations have really become adept at spinning what used to simply take place without comment into market speak to re-categorise old-school corruption and profiteering and make it appear as something positive for [insert category of public talking point here, i.e., ecology, women's rights, global south development, etc, etc, etc,]. Corporations use the good intentions of a progressivist public as a marketing tool to appeal to sentiment and feeling. Now, obviously, this is also not new. But the weird parasocial element of it where we're supposed to assume that corporations "care" is definitely a product of the social media age. This is what I meant by the "legitimization" model since most mafia organisations are predicated, i.e., only in principle, on community preservation. It's all just my opinion on the matter, of course. Don't mean to be argumentative.

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5 minutes ago, toonotl said:

 

I'm not really talking about individual sports teams in isolation but more so about sports administrators taking kickbacks in exchange for favours done to the sports big teams. It's a matter of cooperative corruption at this point. (Not that I'm suggesting that is "new", of course not). But I do think that it is relatively new in terms of scope and public-facing justifications used to promote it. It basically aligns, in my opinion, with a new level of marketing savvy that corporations use in an age of social media and "alternative facts". 

 

As an aside, with the latent threat of the European Super League still fresh in the mind of these administrative bodies, there is a new silent motivation for keeping the big clubs happy. And that is certainly something different given the amounts of money involved.

 

I do also think that post-Covid in particular there is a new emphasis on "expansionism" in sport/business to maximise profits for stakeholders, yes. I didn't suggest it was a "new" development since it is in accordance with the general impetus of capitalist interest. I would've thought that should go without saying that I don't believe that sport has invented the notion of unfair competition. I wasn't born yesterday. But in terms of degree rather than kind, coupled with "legitimization" tactics build around marketing spin in a world where "truth" has fallen by the wayside, I do think these are semi-recent developments.

 

It seems that corporations have really become adept at spinning what used to simply take place without comment into market speak to re-categorise old-school corruption and profiteering and make it appear as something positive for [insert category of public talking point here, i.e., ecology, women's rights, global south development, etc, etc, etc,]. Corporations use the good intentions of a progressivist public as a marketing tool to appeal to sentiment and feeling. Now, obviously, this is also not new. But the weird parasocial element of it where we're supposed to assume that corporations "care" is definitely a product of the social media age. This is what I meant by the "legitimization" model since most mafia organisations are predicated, i.e., only in principle, on community preservation. It's all just my opinion on the matter, of course. Don't mean to be argumentative.

 

I'm not trying to be argumentative either. I think I mostly agree, but I will say this sounds more like an argument that could be applied against late stage capitalism as a whole rather than just sports/football.

 

You sound encouragingly leftist. More left than most western governments. 

 

It's all good.

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1 minute ago, Blastronaut said:

 

I'm not trying to be argumentative either. I think I mostly agree, but I will say this sounds more like an argument that could be applied against late stage capitalism as a whole rather than just sports/football.

 

You sound encouragingly leftist. More left than most western governments. 

 

It's all good.

 

Yep. Exactly. :) 

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