Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER

[RobElliott 991]

On 14/08/2023 at 13:15, Gemmill said:

There's an app called wonder where you give it a prompt and the AI produces art of your prompt. I've tried to get it to do a pic of Eddie Howe kicking fuck out of Klopp, but the best it's done so far is this picture of Wayne Rooney eating baked beans.

 

That's the closest I can get

[Gemmill 34831]

2 minutes ago, RobElliott said:

That's the closest I can get

 

It gave me the exact same fucking picture.

 

[Dougle 2869]

So basically what you are saying here lads is divnt get this app it’s shite?

[RobElliott 991]

I used Midjourney.

 

Here is Trump and Biden under the watchful eye of Dan Ashworth at the latest trial 

 

If Biden can stay awake he could be a handy Left Back. Trump looks like he has been good to himself over the summer and has more work to do

[Kid Dynamite 5955]

Hopefully Greenwood gets sex offender/lassie basher chants at every ground he plays at til the day he retires 

[ewerk 26550]

2 hours ago, Chaser said:

Unbelievable to think Man Utd are paving the way for a Greenwood return. I know many have escaped conviction be it not enough evidence, false evidence, victim declining to prosecute etc but from what was put out in the public domain, it would appear that what was alleged was true. 

Their investigation should have ended when they heard this below. How they can possibly think of playing him again is beyond me.

 

[Kitman 2188]

I know this it's inappropriate to focus on a turn of phrase here, given just how evil that transcript is, but did he really say "Damn me"?  It made him sound like a Victorian era gammon. Maybe he was role playing Stephen Fry as the Duke of Wellington as a rapist...

[Kitman 2188]

3 hours ago, ewerk said:

Their investigation should have ended when they heard this below. How they can possibly think of playing him again is beyond me.

 

Their angle seems to be how do we justify bringing him back in, rather than weighing up the right thing to do. Basically they dont want to lose their asset.

[ewerk 26550]

Given that he hasn’t been convicted of anything or banned from football I’m wondering can they sack him? My hunch is that their lawyers have told them that they owe him  back pay from his suspension and will have to pay up his contract to get him to leave.

 

Isn't Mendy looking all his wages from his suspension at Man City? @LondonBlue

[Holden McGroin 4924]

Yeah, tricky one. Legally he hasn’t done anything wrong. 
 

if I was Man United or his agent  I’d loan him abroad. As a player, I’d be uncomfortable if he was coming back into the dressing room.

[Kitman 2188]

47 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Given that he hasn’t been convicted of anything or banned from football I’m wondering can they sack him? My hunch is that their lawyers have told them that they owe him  back pay from his suspension and will have to pay up his contract to get him to leave.

 

Isn't Mendy looking all his wages from his suspension at Man City? @LondonBlue

Youre probably right that they cant sack him,  but they dont have to restore him to the first team squad.  Unless they believe hes innocent ofc

[MMXXVIII 1058]

They could bring him on for half an hour away to Spurs and see if he still fancies sticking around.

[wykikitoon 16788]

Send the cunt to Turkey

[Kid Dynamite 5955]

32 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

Yeah, tricky one. Legally he hasn’t done anything wrong. 
 

if I was Man United or his agent  I’d loan him abroad. As a player, I’d be uncomfortable if he was coming back into the dressing room.

It will be linked to employment law. He's not been found guilty of anything. But if Man Utd can prove he is guilty of gross misconduct with the audio recording then they could still have a case to sack him. I'd imagine he's been on full pay whilst suspended 

[Holden McGroin 4924]

7 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

It will be linked to employment law. He's not been found guilty of anything. But if Man Utd can prove he is guilty of gross misconduct with the audio recording then they could still have a case to sack him. I'd imagine he's been on full pay whilst suspended 

I would have thought so. But then I thought Mendy was as well.

Edited August 17, 2023 by Holden McGroin

[wykikitoon 16788]

I think with Mendy, he was on remand at one point wasn't he?

[LondonBlue 563]

2 hours ago, ewerk said:

Given that he hasn’t been convicted of anything or banned from football I’m wondering can they sack him? My hunch is that their lawyers have told them that they owe him  back pay from his suspension and will have to pay up his contract to get him to leave.

 

Isn't Mendy looking all his wages from his suspension at Man City? @LondonBlue

 

If it was easy i'd give you a straight forward answer.

 

Pretty sure he left our employ some time ago but now that his case is done, there's a rumour that he's after about 10m from us.

 

There's the violation of bail terms and gross misconduct that work in our favour though.

 

[LondonBlue 563]

2 hours ago, Kitman said:

Youre probably right that they cant sack him,  but they dont have to restore him to the first team squad.  Unless they believe hes innocent ofc

 

That just made me think. I suspect our owners (and yours) might take quite the principled moral stance with a "rapist". Possibly more so than with an american owned club. 

 

ps. Not saying that Mendy is a rapist btw. In fact i suspect that he isn't. Given one of the women went back to his place several months after being raped and, whilst taking a shower in his bedroom, was raped again. Not read all the details but that one is dodgy as.

[Kid Dynamite 5955]

45 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

I think with Mendy, he was on remand at one point wasn't he?

So was Greenwood for 2 days after breaking his bail conditions iirc

 

The whole thing is a minefield tbh. Mendy, Greenwood, Ched Evans, David Goodwillie, the Arsenal midfielder, Sigurddson. Bramble and Dyer had their own brushes with the law in the not too distant past. All similar types of allegations. 

 

Some have been charged and then found not guilty, some have ended up in jail, some have had convictions overturned, some have been released without charge. Where's the line in the sand for who gets to carry on playing football and who doesn't?

 

Personally speaking, if Greenwood played for us, with the video evidence available I wouldn't want him anywhere near the club. 

[wykikitoon 16788]

1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said:

So was Greenwood for 2 days after breaking his bail conditions iirc

 

The whole thing is a minefield tbh. Mendy, Greenwood, Ched Evans, David Goodwillie, the Arsenal midfielder, Sigurddson. Bramble and Dyer had their own brushes with the law in the not too distant past. All similar types of allegations. 

 

Some have been charged and then found not guilty, some have ended up in jail, some have had convictions overturned, some have been released without charge. Where's the line in the sand for who gets to carry on playing football and who doesn't?

 

Personally speaking, if Greenwood played for us, with the video evidence available I wouldn't want him anywhere near the club. 

They should loan him to Besiktas and make it clear what he's done.

[MMXXVIII 1058]

 

Doing him a disservice with 79 like.

[toonotl 2432]

Sneak Attack 99

[Holden McGroin 4924]

1 hour ago, MMXXVIII said:

 

Doing him a disservice with 79 like.

His defence as well. It was so good it didn't go to trial. 

[RobinRobin 9268]

Criminal burden of proof is much higher. I would sack him and take my chances in court. 

Sunderland would take him. 

[Kid Dynamite 5955]

3 hours ago, RobinRobin said:

Criminal burden of proof is much higher. I would sack him and take my chances in court. 

Sunderland would take him. 

That would be a win/win for any sensible club. Take the moral high ground, sack him, and if it gets overturned at court then Greenwood still ends up coming out of it looking worse than the club