Dmoretz13 0 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 I don’t get Rafa. Why would you make Shelvey earn his spot implying that Hayden and Longstaff are actually better players? Now rumors of a Hammers transfer in Summer, I doubt Ashley would ever allow a proper amount that they would get for him so new, good players could be bought. So the team would be stuck with either aging midfielders or young inexperienced ones who’s form are just miraculously good at this point. Really hoping to see either Jonjo get more playtime and establish his place in the starting 11 or (far fetched) use the transfer fee to buy another good midfielder. what do you think? Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 8,206 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Aren’t all our players ageing? Aren’t all of us? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 2,245 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 What's the 13 stand for mate? If you get any PMs off @t00nraider2 forward them to @Antor @Tom and tell a guardian 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 1,053 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, ewerk said: Aren’t all our players ageing? Aren’t all of us? Our slow march towards the void continues. We've been better this season with literally any of our CMs in rather than Shelvey, he doesn't deserve a place in the 11 at the moment, given the fact he can't be arsed all too often and can be pressed out of the game quite easily when hes not in the mood I don't care. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Howay 3,325 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) He’s been pushing to be away since the end of last season. He can’t be arsed to muster much above walking pace for the vast majority of games which can quite often cost us goals, while his passing can be an asset he can quite often get caught up in trying the spectacular ball over and over, and when he’s having a bad game he can be prone to lashing out stupidly seeing us reduced to 10 men. He can be a good player but he’s another in a long line of having the quality but not the professional attitude imo. I definitely would prefer Longstaff over him in the side, the kid has high potential, is hungry to prove himself, and wants to be at the club, Shelvey could potentially play next to Longstaff but I think you’d need to play them in a 3 as Shelvey is a lazy prick. The final bit for me is that I hear he is an absolute cunt of a bloke away from the pitch as well. If we could rip a team of overpayers like West Ham off for him and spend it replacing him I’d be chuffed (I know the second bit is unlikely). As Andrew says we have looked best this season when he’s not been around the side which says a lot. Edited March 3, 2019 by Howay Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 3,981 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 I'd heard Shelvey is an absolutely lovely bloke tbh. Funny what you hear 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 4,032 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 He was probably our best player last season Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 2,245 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Love Shelvs, the lazy stuff is just rolled out by fans of other clubs who haven't acknowledged his transformation under Rafa. Would like to see how he gets on next to Longstaff. When he's on song he's levels above Diame/Ki/Hayden Link to post Share on other sites
Howmanheyman 6,287 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Dmoretz13 said: I don’t get Rafa. Why would you make Shelvey earn his spot implying that Hayden and Longstaff are actually better players? Now rumors of a Hammers transfer in Summer, I doubt Ashley would ever allow a proper amount that they would get for him so new, good players could be bought. So the team would be stuck with either aging midfielders or young inexperienced ones who’s form are just miraculously good at this point. Really hoping to see either Jonjo get more playtime and establish his place in the starting 11 or (far fetched) use the transfer fee to buy another good midfielder. what do you think? Welcome to the board, Jonjo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kid Dynamite 1,709 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheGingerQuiff said: the lazy stuff is just rolled out by fans of other clubs who haven't acknowledged his transformation under Rafa. It's not like. If his head isn't right he's 100% the laziest player on the pitch, which was the case in his last appearance for us. No coincidence that he can't even get on the bench atm Edited March 4, 2019 by Kid Dynamite Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 7,888 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Loads of ability but I always got the feeling Benitez didn’t trust or rate him particularly but he needed him last season to a far greater extent than it would seem he does now Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 2,245 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 39 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: It's not like. If his head isn't right he's 100% the laziest player on the pitch, which was the case in his last appearance for us. No coincidence that he can't even get on the bench atm That's a result of the competition for places ethos that Benitez lives by. No point in picking on appearances where he's clearly carrying an injury and putting it down to his head not being right either. It's a lazy conclusion to draw. Link to post Share on other sites
Kid Dynamite 1,709 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Use your stats skills to find out distance covered/games played for: Hayden Longstaff Ki Diame Shelvey Who do you think will come last? Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 2,245 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Can't find any distance covered stats so I won't speculate. Whoscored.com has him as our 8th best performer over the season by all of the measures they do record though. Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 2,245 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 If you do dig out the distance covered stats do Mitro vs any of our strikers 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kid Dynamite 1,709 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Classic deflection when losing an argument. Like that one Alex Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 7,888 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Yes Link to post Share on other sites
essembeeofsunderland 584 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Diame and Shelvey are both lazy bastards who at best jog on the field. Watch the lazy bastards stand or walk when the opposition are pushing forward in or around the box. They don't give a fuck at times. Link to post Share on other sites
David Kelly 636 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Apparently Premiership players surprisingly regularly fail drugs tests for Cocaine and get three month bans. This is somehow kept out of the press. Sounds a little far fetched but it's what I was told the other day. Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 8,206 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 He played for the reserves the other night, he wouldn't have been able to if he were banned. Link to post Share on other sites
David Kelly 636 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Whoa I never said anything about Shelvey being banned. Hypothetically though a player might play for the reserves when his ban was up and the Premier League usually give out bans in terms of games rather than time. Link to post Share on other sites
LooneyToony 41 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Perhaps he had hair restoration therapy. You know, a hair transplant. Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 1,053 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 hours ago, David Kelly said: Whoa I never said anything about Shelvey being banned. Hypothetically though a player might play for the reserves when his ban was up and the Premier League usually give out bans in terms of games rather than time. Berahino was one who got several in a row or something wasn't he? Link to post Share on other sites
OTF 774 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 A period out seems to work well to refocus his discipline on the pitch. Ability wise he's very talented but Rafa is right to make him continually earn a spot on the teamsheet. He won't sell him becauae he knows the money won't be reinvested. Link to post Share on other sites
wykikitoon 1,379 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 17 hours ago, David Kelly said: Apparently Premiership players surprisingly regularly fail drugs tests for Cocaine and get three month bans. This is somehow kept out of the press. Sounds a little far fetched but it's what I was told the other day. All you have to do is go on the UKAD page and see violations. With the amount of money in football though it wouldnt be a shock if they were back handed. Link to post Share on other sites
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