Andrew 5657 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 The bottom line is that the guy is alive and made it to hospital thanks to the nearby fans, players, the paramedics and the doctors on hand. By all means argue that you thinking it took too long is more important than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 3902 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 17/10/2021 at 22:03, Andrew said: The bottom line is that the guy is alive and made it to hospital thanks to the nearby fans, players, the paramedics and the doctors on hand. By all means argue that you thinking it took too long is more important than that. Expand You utter Tit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartaFC 324 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 17/10/2021 at 21:23, ewerk said: There was understandable confusion. As soon as the Spurs players came over and explained (big well done to them) the docs were off quickly with the equipment. The man’s life was saved. They don’t deserve any criticism. Expand I was about to say the same, luckily I spotted your post first to stop making a cnut of myself, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5657 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 17/10/2021 at 22:08, Dougle said: You utter Tit Expand Good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastronaut 1372 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 17/10/2021 at 22:08, Dougle said: You utter Tit Expand That fairly uncalled for like. He makes a good point, the outcome was positive we probably shouldn't dwell on it. On 17/10/2021 at 22:03, Andrew said: The bottom line is that the guy is alive and made it to hospital thanks to the nearby fans, players, the paramedics and the doctors on hand. By all means argue that you thinking it took too long is more important than that. Expand I'm only arguing that people should be taking more notice of what David Ginola was saying when play was suspended. Haven't heard anyone else mention it. The players on the park were clearly looking for a similar response to Erikson at the Euros and it (for obvious reasons) wasn't anywhere close. Im not trying to blame any medical staff, just hoped there would be more of a discussion over cardiac arrest and how we can all be more equipped to deal with them. They don't just happen to out of shape idle layabouts and the faster the response the more likely that person doesn't die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6647 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Just to be clear on this, what is the intended process meant to be if this happens? Fans nearby call 999? Someone flags down a steward and they alert medical staff at the ground? I'm having a hard time imagining that it's meant to be so up in the air that players have to down tools to get a spotlight on it. That's not to say anyone associated with saving the man's life deserves criticism, I don't think they do; I think for me they'd only deserve it if they were being deliberately slow, which I'm having a hard time believing - but the process that governs how the information travels, and what their response procedure is, may well be worthy of criticism. Either way it's impressive that people are managing to fall out over a man's life being saved - especially since as far as I can tell, everyone commenting is coming at the issue from a place of compassion, either with the individual who was in trouble, the medical staff who saved him, and/or both. Classic TT tbh. Thanks for the share of that Ginola quote as well, Blastronaut. Should probably take some responsibility for my fellow man and take a basic CPR course myself tbh. Edited October 17, 2021 by Rayvin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastronaut 1372 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Im not meaning to have a pop at anyone like, just slightly frustrated that everything Ginola said in that moment seems to have went unnoticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 13108 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 17/10/2021 at 17:57, OTF said: You can immediately tell someone does not watch football/understand football the moment they suggest that Bruce is in anyway a good manager. The absurdity of it is that there's a long string of supporters over a load of clubs that will attest to the truth about the quality of football his sides turn out, and yet, against a tide of facts suggesting otherwise, the voices that are most heard are from those that sprout misinformation. Expand None of whom would want him to manage coach their team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10811 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) On 17/10/2021 at 23:46, Blastronaut said: Im not meaning to have a pop at anyone like, just slightly frustrated that everything Ginola said in that moment seems to have went unnoticed. Expand It’s maybe jyst because most of us are aware of Ginola”s story. https://theathletic.com/1591448/2020/02/10/the-day-david-ginola-died-i-should-probably-speak-to-a-psychologist-i-think-i-need-it/?source=user_shared_article Edited October 18, 2021 by Isegrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10811 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53541 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I haven't commented on Ginola cos I was watching it on a hookie stream from America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53541 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 05:13, Isegrim said: Expand TOO SLOW, YOU CUNT! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 5071 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 579 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 For those of you debating, there was no delay to treatment and the players stopping the match made no difference as CPR was started immediately by fellow fans and one of my colleagues. A defib was there within 4 minutes of stewards alerting the medical team. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 579 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Totally agree with Ginola’s comments that everyone should know how to do basic CPR and I think it should be taught in schools as young as Primary school age. The chances of anyone having a cardiac arrest within feet of a defib outside of hospital is minimal. Starting CPR buys you time to get one to the scene. To have one there within minutes is literally life saving. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8959 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 08:07, catmag said: For those of you debating, there was no delay to treatment and the players stopping the match made no difference as CPR was started immediately by fellow fans and one of my colleagues. A defib was there within 4 minutes of stewards alerting the medical team. Expand This looks suspiciously like fact, there's no room for any of that around here! Postulation and speculation only! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46813 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 @catmag- so if I go to the next match and have a lie down, are you saying you and your mate will cut my top off and start pumping me? What’s the ticket office number? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5576 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 10:14, Monkeys Fist said: @catmag- so if I go to the next match and have a lie down, are you saying you and your mate will cut my top off and start pumping me? What’s the ticket office number? Expand Careful where you sit, I know CPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14475 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 579 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 08:35, OTF said: This looks suspiciously like fact, there's no room for any of that around here! Postulation and speculation only! Expand Apologies! Bloody women spoiling your threads with facts and logic..😊 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 579 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 10:14, Monkeys Fist said: @catmag- so if I go to the next match and have a lie down, are you saying you and your mate will cut my top off and start pumping me? What’s the ticket office number? Expand You’re forgetting that I know what you look like and even if you legitimately collapsed I’d think you were just being a knob 😁 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34730 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 15:25, catmag said: You’re forgetting that I know what you look like Expand Ooooff, that's harsh. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46813 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 15:25, catmag said: You’re forgetting that I know what you look like and even if you legitimately collapsed I’d think you were just being a knob 😁 Expand Cheeky cu… swine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastronaut 1372 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 04:40, Isegrim said: It’s maybe just because most of us are aware of Ginola's story. Expand That ehm....actually would make a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8959 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 18/10/2021 at 15:25, ewerk said: Ooooff, that's harsh. Expand Burned into her brain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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