Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Kitman 2570]

1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said:

We are frustrated that our £25m bid for £30m Trafford, and £50m bid for £60m Pedro have both failed apparently 

 

What's the likelihood that Martin Hardy has the inside track on our transfer negotiations and how we feel about progress? We've been very good at keeping things confidential so I'm very sceptical about the truth of stuff like this

[RobinRobin 13241]

12 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

Or maybe

 

 

 

[thebrokendoll 11255]

16 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

Or maybe

 

 

 

 

loved that record me, bettered however by this....

 

seem to recall it always being the catalyst for a brawl between gangs of teenage lads from fueding streets/schools at the local youth club.

[Holden McGroin 8258]

Trafford seems to be a really low price for a 22 year old future England goalie.

[Andrew 5788]

At 30 million he'd be the 6th most expensive keeper of all time. It is odd how low value the position seems to be.

 

Buffon is still in the top 5

[wykikitoon 24415]

Buffon was magic. What a keeper.

[Toonpack 12649]

17 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Buffon was magic. What a keeper.

 

Nah, that was Pilot mate

 

 

[Ayatollah Hermione 15460]

Knight Ryder saying that we’re closing in on Joao Pedro. Almost like all this preemptive bedwetting two weeks ago may have been slightly premature 

[Dr Gloom 24640]

jimbo's telly or stfu 

[The Fish 11637]

Is it ok to say that Elanga, Pedro and Trafford don't make my downstairs bit all fizzy?

 

I guess it's the football hipster in me, but none of them are particularly exciting. Well, Trafford, maybe? But Pedro and Elanga are just... yeah, Ok, I guess.

[Howmanheyman 38860]

21 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

Knight Ryder saying that we’re closing in on Joao Pedro. Almost like all this preemptive bedwetting two weeks ago may have been slightly premature 

 

If he joins Bruno and Joelinton will give him the good Brazilian, bad Brazilian welcome. Bruno will be all BFF and big Joe will do the big, cuddly, friendly giant welcome but with a 'don't fuck about or else' aside to it.

[wykikitoon 24415]

Just now, The Fish said:

Is it ok to say that Elanga, Pedro and Trafford don't make my downstairs bit all fizzy?

 

I guess it's the football hipster in me, but none of them are particularly exciting. Well, Trafford, maybe? But Pedro and Elanga are just... yeah, Ok, I guess.

I think that's fair.

 

But what does make it fizzy is we have Sir Edward Howe. If he can polish turds he can certainly roll them in glitter too.

[Dr Gloom 24640]

7 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Is it ok to say that Elanga, Pedro and Trafford don't make my downstairs bit all fizzy?

 

I guess it's the football hipster in me, but none of them are particularly exciting. Well, Trafford, maybe? But Pedro and Elanga are just... yeah, Ok, I guess.

 

they're not glamour/marquee signings but chelsea have made loads of those and it doesn't guarantee success.

 

athleticism, pace, work rate and personality seem as important as technical ability to howe. he is also the best in the business at improving players.

 

these lads are all young with potential to be improved. elanga is the one out of all of them who i wonder is worth the price mooted, but if eddie fancies him, you have to trust his judgement. i've seen enough from joao pedro to think he can be a really good player and he would also give us a different way of playing. the one question with him is his attitude, but again i defer to sir eddie on that. 

[David Kelly 1468]

6 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Is it ok to say that Elanga, Pedro and Trafford don't make my downstairs bit all fizzy?

 

I guess it's the football hipster in me, but none of them are particularly exciting. Well, Trafford, maybe? But Pedro and Elanga are just... yeah, Ok, I guess.

They're not in the Bruno, Botman,  Isak and Tonali category but if I'm honest the signings of Gordon, Tino and Hall didn't excite me either and they have all gone on to become full England internationals since arriving here and key parts of our team so I'd be far from concerned.  I don't think think a keeper is ever likely set anyone's heart racing (and I say that as someone who played in goal myself) and we were never likely to be able to sign someone who could fulfil the role of backup to Isak (as well as being able to play other roles) with someone to create a wankfest.  But Pedro as a player who can contribute in a number of positions would seem to be a good fit.  

Elanga is the one I'm least positive about if I'm honest.  We've waited years to sign an exciting right winger after making do with players who were never great successes before the takeover, and he just doesn't quite match to what I was hoping for.  Still he managed 17 goal contributions in the league last season and he already has an understanding with Isak from the national team so there's certainly reasons to be positive.

[The Fish 11637]

4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

they're not glamour/marquee signings but chelsea have made loads of those and it doesn't guarantee success.

 

athleticism, pace, work rate and personality seem as important as technical ability to howe. he is also the best in the business at improving players.

 

these lads are all young with potential to be improved. elanga is the one out of all of them who i wonder is worth the price mooted, but if eddie fancies him, you have to trust his judgement. i've seen enough from joao pedro to think he can be a really good player and he would also give us a different way of playing. the one question with him is his attitude, but again i defer to sir eddie on that. 

 

I suppose. But, honestly, if Elanga was coming from La Liga I'd probably be more excited. Which is stupid and juvenile, but it's true.

 

For what it's worth, I still think we need an RCB and more depth across the board, so lets hope some Uruguayan plying his trade in the J League can get me giddy as fuck.

[wykikitoon 24415]

I think a RCB is paramount. We cannot rely on Schar playing every game next season.

[Toonpack 12649]

Elanga gives us an added dimension with his pace, come ~ 70 mins when it seems we now like to drop off/consolidate our position (if winning) with him and Gordon we could cause havoc on the counter.

 

With that pace threat on both wings teams will have to be circumspect in pressing us, which in itself helps defensively.

[David Kelly 1468]

RCB is surely along with RW the two positions in the starting 11 that is in most need of upgrade.  That's harsh on Schar who pound for pound is one of the best signings we've made since I've been supporting the club.  But he turns 34 in December and is far from the quickest anyway.

[Dr Gloom 24640]

10 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

They're not in the Bruno, Botman,  Isak and Tonali category but if I'm honest the signings of Gordon, Tino and Hall didn't excite me either and they have all gone on to become full England internationals since arriving here and key parts of our team so I'd be far from concerned.  I don't think think a keeper is ever likely set anyone's heart racing (and I say that as someone who played in goal myself) and we were never likely to be able to sign someone who could fulfil the role of backup to Isak (as well as being able to play other roles) with someone to create a wankfest.  But Pedro as a player who can contribute in a number of positions would seem to be a good fit.  

Elanga is the one I'm least positive about if I'm honest.  We've waited years to sign an exciting right winger after making do with players who were never great successes before the takeover, and he just doesn't quite match to what I was hoping for.  Still he managed 17 goal contributions in the league last season and he already has an understanding with Isak from the national team so there's certainly reasons to be positive.

 

my main doubt with elanga is he seems great option for a counter-attacking team with pace to burn getting in behind and he looks energetic in the press so would fit out current style but if we are gouing to develop into a more possession-based side, does he have the technical ability to break down a low block defence? it's been our achilles heel, and i'm not sure he's that sort of player. i could well be wrong but i sense someone such as semenyo might be a better option in that regard. 

[Andrew 5788]

31 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Is it ok to say that Elanga, Pedro and Trafford don't make my downstairs bit all fizzy?

 

I guess it's the football hipster in me, but none of them are particularly exciting. Well, Trafford, maybe? But Pedro and Elanga are just... yeah, Ok, I guess.

 

Totally agree, I am still an advocate for us doing something stupid just for fun. 

They'll be decent signings at minimum though and Elanga in particular gives us a ridiculous amount of pace on the break and an extra mate for Isak so it seems a smart buy.

 

[Dazzler 13180]

1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

my main doubt with elanga is he seems great option for a counter-attacking team with pace to burn getting in behind and he looks energetic in the press so would fit out current style but if we are gouing to develop into a more possession-based side, does he have the technical ability to break down a low block defence? it's been our achilles heel, and i'm not sure he's that sort of player. i could well be wrong but i sense someone such as semenyo might be a better option in that regard. 

Semenyo has a touch of the Maxis about him for me - He's too maverick for a Howe side. Albeit that's only based on the limited amount of times I've seen him play.

 

Elanga seems like a RW Gordon - rapid, direct and a workhorse.

[David Kelly 1468]

1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

my main doubt with elanga is he seems great option for a counter-attacking team with pace to burn getting in behind and he looks energetic in the press so would fit out current style but if we are gouing to develop into a more possession-based side, does he have the technical ability to break down a low block defence? it's been our achilles heel, and i'm not sure he's that sort of player. i could well be wrong but i sense someone such as semenyo might be a better option in that regard. 

He's also another right footed right winger so he doesn't give us an option to change away from the way we have been using Murphy.  I actually like this in the sense that it is something that has really worked between Murphy and Isak but it appears that we would be very much be swapping out like for like without having anyone that we could bring from the bench to play a different way.  Joao Pedro wouldn't offer much else down the right in that sense either.  So if we come up against an opposition who are nullifying us down the right we may struggle to change things.  And I suppose the same could be said about the left, although Joao Pedro is comfortable playing there so, while he's still right footed, he would offer something different.

I do hate getting into these thoughts about players we haven't signed mind, I feel we should be waiting when/if they are our players before getting into tactical discussions on them.

[Dr Gloom 24640]

2 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

He's also another right footed right winger so he doesn't give us an option to change away from the way we have been using Murphy.  I actually like this in the sense that it is something that has really worked between Murphy and Isak but it appears that we would be very much be swapping out like for like without having anyone that we could bring from the bench to play a different way.  Joao Pedro wouldn't offer much else down the right in that sense either.  So if we come up against an opposition who are nullifying us down the right we may struggle to change things.  And I suppose the same could be said about the left, although Joao Pedro is comfortable playing there so, while he's still right footed, he would offer something different.

I do hate getting into these thoughts about players we haven't signed mind, I feel we should be waiting when/if they are our players before getting into tactical discussions on them.

 

it's the time of year though, innit. fuck all else to talk about on here apart from transfer speculation, the cricket, the U21s, or WWIII

[David Kelly 1468]

7 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

it's the time of year though, innit. fuck all else to talk about on here apart from transfer speculation, the cricket, the U21s, or WWIII

It is but it feels like a combination of putting the mockers on the deals and disrespectful to the clubs where these players currently are.  It just doesn't sit particularly well with me.

[Craig 8078]

My concern with Elanga is he could be appearing better than he is on the basis that he's a perfect fit for Forest's system. It didn't work so well at Man United. 

I think a lot of what was good at Forest this last season was down to Gibbs-White. Including the effectiveness of the front three.