Alexander Isak

[trooper 1058]

5 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

I think you misunderstand.

 

We are not getting a suitable replacement this window.

 

That being the case, the owners should decide and publicly confirm he’s not moving. Howe is then quite ok to confirm the boards public statement.

 

The sooner this happens, the sooner we move on.

Yeah at the minute Isak is the ma8n topic at the pressers. If the club makes a statement, all Howe has to say in future pressers when asked about Isak. He's still a Newcastle player & continues to train alone, next question 

[Christmas Tree 6697]

1 minute ago, Renton said:

 

I think you misunderstand. I suggest you read Craig's response again. 

 

 

You both misunderstand.

 

My view is that we are 100% not replacing Isak this window. (We are already about 5 or 6 down the list).

 

The ONLY sensible way forward is to play Isak until such time as we can replace him.

 

The sooner that stance is communicated publicly, not sources say, the sooner Isak will have no choice but to return.

 

 

[Renton 27784]

Just now, Christmas Tree said:

 

 

You both misunderstand.

 

My view is that we are 100% not replacing Isak this window. (We are already about 5 or 6 down the list).

 

The ONLY sensible way forward is to play Isak until such time as we can replace him.

 

The sooner that stance is communicated publicly, not sources say, the sooner Isak will have no choice but to return.

 

 

 

Oh well, as long as CT from Boldon is 100% sure of what is happening behind the scenes, that's me convinced.

 

 

[Dr Gloom 26353]

2 hours ago, Craig said:

Fucking hate all this bullshit - it sends you on a path of seriously questioning whether the likes of him, and Romano, are in the pockets of certain clubs and are paid to put stories out there to cause unrest and destabilisation. 
 

well, duh

[Christmas Tree 6697]

1 minute ago, Renton said:

 

Oh well, as long as CT from Boldon is 100% sure of what is happening behind the scenes, that's me convinced.

 

 

 Behind the scenes? Do you need me to list the players we’ve missed who we wanted to replace Isak?

 

We can’t even replace Wilson  

 

This needs putting to bed now, not letting it continue to cloud everything til September 1st

[Dazzler 16199]

1 hour ago, Craig said:

Agree with the sentiment though. It's something I think Ferguson got right at Man Utd. If you acted like a cunt he steered clear of you. If you became a cunt, you were history. Beckham, Keane & Staam are all testament to that.

He fucked Ronaldo off as soon as he started acting like he was bigger than the club too. He was never scared of binning off star players if they started negatively impacting his dressing room.

[Dazzler 16199]

47 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

https://x.com/Betfair/status/1955163116464980213

I loved hearing all of those scouse accents tbh

[Dazzler 16199]

9 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

 

You both misunderstand.

 

My view is that we are 100% not replacing Isak this window. (We are already about 5 or 6 down the list).

 

The ONLY sensible way forward is to play Isak until such time as we can replace him.

 

The sooner that stance is communicated publicly, not sources say, the sooner Isak will have no choice but to return.

 

 

Maybe I misunderstand but I haven't got a fucking clue what any of you are on about.

[Dr Gloom 26353]

24 minutes ago, Craig said:

 

I don't misunderstand at all. 

I think if Liverpool meet our valuation and that we're able to get Wissa plus someone at Isak's level, I think they'll seriously consider selling him. The constraint for me is not having a suitable replacement and our valuation not being met. Hence why the club won't put out a statement as you suggest - they're keeping their powder dry.

who are we getting at Isak’s level at this stage of the window? 

[NobbySol 425]

£50m 1 year loan fee for a move to a Saudi team for a season. We value him at £150m with a 3 year contract left (appreciating a new club signs him on a 5 year deal in all likelihood - so different amortisation value).

 

We buy Wissa and one other (fuck knows who) and look to sell Isak next year for £80m-£100m, to a whole host of clubs outside of Liverpool. 

 

If he simply refuses to play and we are refusing to sell him to Liverpool, then sue the cunt and his agent & delve as deep as possible into Liverpool's shady tapping up actions here - sure something will be found.

 

About time we used the Saudi market to our benefit and properly tested the fair market value of an APT (ASM transfer value seemed suspect - although he's done fuck all since!).

 

 

 

[toonotl 4681]

10 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

This needs putting to bed now, not letting it continue to cloud everything til September 1st

 

I honestly think it will continue until at least then. There is no way to put it to bed. No magic words can be uttered by Howe, the chairman, God or anyone else that are impervious to reinterpretation, media manipulation, or just plain old misunderstanding. In my opinion, Isak will not play for us until after September 1st at minimum no matter what anyone does to try and convince him otherwise. 

[Toonpack 15594]

14 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

 

You both misunderstand.

 

My view is that we are 100% not replacing Isak this window. (We are already about 5 or 6 down the list).

 

The ONLY sensible way forward is to play Isak until such time as we can replace him.

 

The sooner that stance is communicated publicly, not sources say, the sooner Isak will have no choice but to return.

 

 

 

There are lots of strikers who "could" replace Isak, sure they may not score the odd wow goal he does, but they will happily convert the guilt edge chances we, as a team, create (for him) equally they may not miss the chances and one on one's he does, perhaps some of them can even head the ball.

 

Yeah he's an outstanding player but he's not irreplaceable, that said he's ours until we decide he's not. There's no need to communicate anything further, he's not for sale.

[BobHopeandNoHope 771]

Isak the snake cunt, must be the cunt of all cunts if that useless cunt Agbonlahor thinks he’s being a cunt! I better get meself to Fenwicks, as I said the day I agree with fat Gabby I’ll show me arse in Fenwicks window. 

[PaddockLad 22498]

5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

who are we getting at Isak’s level at this stage of the window? 

 

We're absolutely not and clubs will know  if we make an approach for any of their players that we're fuckin desperate with no fat transfer fee. I'm a great believer in recognising where power lies. We have a contract but the consequences of holding the player to it could be huge if we do...and of course equally as  huge if we don't... 

[Craig 12383]

25 minutes ago, toonotl said:

I don't think Howe saying "he's not for sale" does anything to change things. Like TP said, it likely just inflames things. The media narrative has already turned imo so it isn't even necessary. I think almost nobody, with the exception of irrelevant social media examples of deluded Liverpool supporters, expects us to sell Isak unless a replacement comes in first and Liverpool makes a drastically improved offer.

 

I think the club has managed this saga really really well honestly. Having Howe at the front of things obviously helps. We look like the mature ones, with Isak and Liverpool both carrying on like muppets.

CT in naive "if Howe publicly says he's not for sale then the doors are closed" shocker. 

Up there with the run-in at the end of Howe's first season where he wanted teams at the foot of the table to beat those who were in and around us in the lower half of the table

[Craig 12383]

32 minutes ago, Dougle said:

 

And how at this point can we possibly do that? Mind you as someone has already pointed out Wissa himself  matched Isak for non pen goals last season, so may two Wissas

 

We're not! But well done on complete missing the narrative.

 

[Craig 12383]

29 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

 

You both misunderstand.

 

My view is that we are 100% not replacing Isak this window. (We are already about 5 or 6 down the list).

 

The ONLY sensible way forward is to play Isak until such time as we can replace him.

 

The sooner that stance is communicated publicly, not sources say, the sooner Isak will have no choice but to return.

 

 

Isak isn't going to be playing, man!

[thebrokendoll 14245]

9 minutes ago, NobbySol said:

£50m 1 year loan fee for a move to a Saudi team for a season. We value him at £150m with a 3 year contract left (appreciating a new club signs him on a 5 year deal in all likelihood - so different amortisation value).

 

We buy Wissa and one other (fuck knows who) and look to sell Isak next year for £80m-£100m, to a whole host of clubs outside of Liverpool. 

 

If he simply refuses to play and we are refusing to sell him to Liverpool, then sue the cunt and his agent & delve as deep as possible into Liverpool's shady tapping up actions here - sure something will be found.

 

About time we used the Saudi market to our benefit and properly tested the fair market value of an APT (ASM transfer value seemed suspect - although he's done fuck all since!).

 

 

 

 

canny enough plan in theory.

except he'd refuse to go to saudi.

[Christmas Tree 6697]

11 minutes ago, toonotl said:

 

 

2 minutes ago, Craig said:

Isak isn't going to be playing, man!

   

 

You think if we keep him he won’t play?

Edited August 12 by Christmas Tree

[ewerk 39233]

11 minutes ago, NobbySol said:

£50m 1 year loan fee for a move to a Saudi team for a season. We value him at £150m with a 3 year contract left (appreciating a new club signs him on a 5 year deal in all likelihood - so different amortisation value).

 

We buy Wissa and one other (fuck knows who) and look to sell Isak next year for £80m-£100m, to a whole host of clubs outside of Liverpool. 

 

If he simply refuses to play and we are refusing to sell him to Liverpool, then sue the cunt and his agent & delve as deep as possible into Liverpool's shady tapping up actions here - sure something will be found.

 

About time we used the Saudi market to our benefit and properly tested the fair market value of an APT (ASM transfer value seemed suspect - although he's done fuck all since!).

 

 

 

 

Swap him on loan for the season with Retegui or Toney plus the £50m loan fee.

[ewerk 39233]

2 minutes ago, Craig said:

Isak isn't going to be playing, man!

 

He stays, he plays.

[PaddockLad 22498]

7 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

canny enough plan in theory.

except he'd refuse to go to saudi.

 

Correct. Loan him out to Barca or Real. He might win them the Champions League which is the main reason Liverpool want him....

 

 

Edited August 12 by PaddockLad

[Craig 12383]

15 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

who are we getting at Isak’s level at this stage of the window? 

We're not!

That's my point. The club are likely only going to budge IF we receive an offer AND we replace Isak with someone at his level. It's massively unrealistic - the media knows that, Howe knows that, Isak knows that, Liverpool know that. 

But ... what benefit does putting a hard "he's not for sale!" statement out there achieve? Does it put it to bed? Absolutely fucking not.

[Dougle 4598]

6 minutes ago, Craig said:

We're not! But well done on complete missing the narrative.

 

 

Your narrative, well aye of course that is the most important thing

[Craig 12383]

2 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

   

 

You think if we keep him he won’t play?

You seriously think he's getting game time? What do expect - Eddie to call him into the office on September 2nd and say "don't worry Alex, I know you've been a cunt all summer but let's put it behind us and crack on - first name on the teamsheet as always, OK?"

Get fucking real, man! He's off into the wilderness for quite some time if he remains with us. He won't be up for selection - Eddie is too much of a man of principal for that bullshit.