Ayatollah Hermione 17219 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Not sure we deserved to lose there but terrible decisions around both boxes have cost us big time. We fucking need to tighten up or we’ll never fucking win away again. Pope needs dropped now, I’m afraid. And I’ve defended him in the past but he’s costing us points regularly 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 27739 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 So, I assume we're probably okay for the play offs, maybe need something from PSV as I don't fancy us against PSG or Leverkusen away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12319 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 We need to be giving Ramsdale a run in the side from this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 11872 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Totally unnecessary loss. Lack of energy and sloppy passing costing us again. Gordon has absolutely no right to start games at the moment. Thiaw the only player maintaining a solid standard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 62967 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Ah well, honestly not that poor a result to lose by the odd goal to these away from home. Not a massive surprise after the ridiculous effort that went into Saturday nights game. On to the weekend and hopefully we can sort out our PL away form. If you're lumping an away CL tie in and moaning about ANOTHER away defeat, you're being a bit of a bellwhiff. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 9861 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Pope clanger but we don’t have any goals in this team (bar Barnes). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTaylor5 1781 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 No point playing Gordon CF. He offers nothing. It is painful watching a game when we look like the better team who are playing so shit that you know we are going to and deserve to lose. I get Woltemade may need a break but try Barnes up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28474 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Did they deserve it? Hmmm maybe. I'm not sure what Howe can do with only just getting Hall and Tino back and no Krafth and Trips. We needed rotation. Imo I would have had a thiaw at RB and played Schar and Burn and Hall / Tino LB. Willock played well and I'm pleased with that. I was hoping for a point before the start. We need back to back Prem wins tbh. Anything is a bonus in the UCL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28474 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Look at the cunts celebrating like they've won the thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1914 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 I don't think the performance lacked, we just didn't have the final ball and went down to a howler. Willock could have had a couple of goals but if he didn't have bad luck, he'd have no luck at all. Definitely need someone who can poach goals. Wissa may be that but he may have retired before we get to use him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 9298 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Howe wants shooting if he starts against Everton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8293 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Yep Pope needs dropping but we still aren't getting it right in terms of finding the plays and taking our chances which is also costing us. We seem to have literally no control over the game at all, we never seem to just have it in possession and stroking it around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14188 Posted November 25 Author Share Posted November 25 Just now, Kid Dynamite said: Howe wants shooting if he starts against Everton completely fucked this game for us the fucking useless cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 62967 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 3 minutes ago, Dazzler said: Yet here we have people questioning the choice to play him against these. What, halfway through the match when it's apparent he could have done with a rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Whitehurst 1282 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Ah well, honestly not that poor a result to lose by the odd goal to these away from home. Not a massive surprise after the ridiculous effort that went into Saturday nights game. On to the weekend and hopefully we can sort out our PL away form. If you're lumping an away CL tie in and moaning about ANOTHER away defeat, you're being a bit of a bellwhiff. People have got a right to have a bit of a moan, we took the lead in all of our last three away matches and lost them all. Tonight was a lot better than West Ham and Brentford though. Edited November 25 by Billy Whitehurst 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 5407 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 I’ve been his biggest supporter because he’s a great goalkeeper, but Pope let them back into the game and needs dropping. No shame, it’s a mistake but we have another goalkeeper who is at least his equal. Dan Burn is a hero and has been great for us since he signed, but he isn’t good enough on the ball. We also struggled without a focal point of a forward, Gordon worked hard and put the yards in but isn’t a centre forward. We need another one in January, despite Wissa coming back. Dont think we were bad here tonight, without that first aberration we might win that game. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12319 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 We definitely need to be looking at another proven striker in January. The inability to finish is costing us big time. i get the sentiment to lose by the odd goal to what is a very good side is nothing to be ashamed of, but it’s the manner of it. We came out after half time expecting them to be the same as they were before the break. Naivety of the highest order 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 397 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 2 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Howe wants shooting if he starts against Everton Problem is once you make that decision, not something you "go back on". Picking Ramsdale ahead of him in the premier league is a statement & he has to be sure Ramsdale is going to improve us all round. I think he does but Eddie doesn't seem ready to make that call. He's made 4 + glaring goal conceding errors this season. Not sure what more he has to do, to spend some time out of the first team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Whitehurst 1282 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 4 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Did they deserve it? Hmmm maybe. I'm not sure what Howe can do with only just getting Hall and Tino back and no Krafth and Trips. We needed rotation. Imo I would have had a thiaw at RB and played Schar and Burn and Hall / Tino LB. Willock played well and I'm pleased with that. I was hoping for a point before the start. We need back to back Prem wins tbh. Anything is a bonus in the UCL Thiaw has been our best centre half recently, there’s no way we should be moving him out of centre half. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoHelpMeGod 241 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Dropping Pope can be a start. Build from the back. We are lacking all over, yes, so let's just address what we can address in the short term. Not the worst performance overall but exposed a lot of our issues. Back to the league again now and a chance to keep climbing on the domestic front. Strangely not feeling too awful about tonight. Hope all of our lot get home safe and sound without any more incidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 17219 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 I do think we’ll have a striker in January as I think Osula to Frankfurt will be back on. A case where Eddie needs to get over his phobia of loans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 17219 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 8 minutes ago, Isegrim said: Totally unnecessary loss. Lack of energy and sloppy passing costing us again. Gordon has absolutely no right to start games at the moment. Thiaw the only player maintaining a solid standard. This is it, like. Simple passes look like difficult ones to some of our lads. And don’t get me started on our set pieces. We have to be up there with the worst in Europe at attacking the fuckers. Especially considering it’s land of the giants at times 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12319 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 1 minute ago, strawb said: I’ve been his biggest supporter because he’s a great goalkeeper, but Pope let them back into the game and needs dropping. No shame, it’s a mistake but we have another goalkeeper who is at least his equal. Dan Burn is a hero and has been great for us since he signed, but he isn’t good enough on the ball. We also struggled without a focal point of a forward, Gordon worked hard and put the yards in but isn’t a centre forward. We need another one in January, despite Wissa coming back. Dont think we were bad here tonight, without that first aberration we might win that game. A lot of common sense here, particularly regarding Burn who I think does get off lightly at times on account of him being the local hero. He isn’t great with the ball at his feet and at times we should be prioritising other CBs. Dunno what the fuck is going on with Gordon but he looks terrified to go in where it’s a 50:50. Can’t afford him to step off challenges like he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12319 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 4 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: I do think we’ll have a striker in January as I think Osula to Frankfurt will be back on. A case where Eddie needs to get over his phobia of loans If Osula moves out we probably need two. That sounds depressingly familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15506 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 3 minutes ago, Craig said: We definitely need to be looking at another proven striker in January. The inability to finish is costing us big time. i get the sentiment to lose by the odd goal to what is a very good side is nothing to be ashamed of, but it’s the manner of it. We came out after half time expecting them to be the same as they were before the break. Naivety of the highest order We came out after half time and Pope gifted them a goal, that lifted them more than any tactical out-foxing. We created more than them even when we were sloppy as fuck (Bruno/Sandro I'm looking at you). On the bright side Miley did well as an emergency right back, that could be helpfull. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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