Rayvin 4964 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Obviously a bunch of wankers not having reasonable discourse with someone who this directly affects, don't agree with him about protesting Assad though. Â What use is protesting a dictator thousands of miles away (insert Trump quips here)? Â A public show of disapproval when our/our "allies's" governments do something wrong makes some sense. Â Aye but they're not doing what they do to stop people like Assad, or even because they're overly concerned about Syrian people. They do it because they want to prevent the British government from being embroiled in something they see as neo-imperialism. You can disagree with the morality of that, but they are being consistent here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Agree with you on protesting dictators fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19824 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 They're SJWs to a man, Rayvin. I'm surprised you're a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I'm not tbh, I just think that much of the criticism levelled at them is strawmanning. Their aims are to prevent Neo-imperialism, not to moralise about war, dictators and strife in other countries. Â Also, everyone involved in that conversation was an SJW, given how the Syrian chap started complaining that they were 'oppressing' him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19824 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I was just teasing. I think they're largely hypocrites though. There are some instances where pacifism doesn't automatically allow you to occupy the moral high ground. The Syrian guy knows what Assad, with his barrel bombing and chemical weapon attacks on civilians, is about more than some lentil burger munching corbynite. Â You could argue potential western intervention in syria, given the west's desire to largely stay out of it, is more about averting a humanitarian crisis rather than imperialism, for once. Chemical weapons are pure barbarism - a deserved redline? Â The stop the war crowd would have probably said the same thing during Nazi Germany expansion tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I was just teasing. I think they're largely hypocrites though. There are some instances where pacifism doesn't automatically allow you to occupy the moral high ground. The Syrian guy knows what Assad, with his barrel bombing and chemical weapon attacks on civilians, is about more than some lentil burger munching corbynite. Â You could argue potential western intervention in syria, given the west's desire to largely stay out of it, is more about averting a humanitarian crisis rather than imperialism, for once. Chemical weapons are pure barbarism - a deserved redline? Â The stop the war crowd would have probably said the same thing during Nazi Germany expansion tbh. Â Chemical weapons would be a red line for me personally, and you're right that if the West is involved for purely humanitarian purposes then STW have no cause for complaint. I suspect they'd argue that much of what is happening in Syria is of the West's making though. But I basically agree at this point - if we wanted to be embroiled in that war we would be. The fact that we aren't suggests that concerns at this point are indeed largely humanitarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19824 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 eeeeeh, london  http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-break-up-fullyfledged-tube-train-rave-with-mc-and-sound-system-on-bakerloo-line-a3512766.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 The video suggests that only about 5 people were involved, and the article mentions it lasted for 2 to 3 stops. Which is about 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30409 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Zany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 This is why we want the Bakerloo extension. Lewisham isn't wacky enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19824 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 head down to peckham, that's not far from you, and has become hipster haven since the rents in shoreditch/dalston priced them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I keep meaning to do Peckham parkrun but I suspect I'd only end up tutting at how hot it must be to run with a lumberjack beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17776 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 It's funny, but this is the first time in 5 years I have posted from a proper PC with the full version of toontastic. Previously only used my phone which is so limited in comparison. I guess that's advancement as without my phone I wouldn't usually be able to post at all, but really liking the enhanced functionality (I had 5 years ago).  Emoticons!!!!!     Could never remember the tags for 99% of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 It's funny, but this is the first time in 5 years I have posted from a proper PC with the full version of toontastic. Previously only used my phone which is so limited in comparison. I guess that's advancement as without my phone I wouldn't usually be able to post at all, but really liking the enhanced functionality (I had 5 years ago).  Emoticons!!!!!     Could never remember the tags for 99% of them. you spanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30409 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 If anyone's got a spare few minutes this is mental: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39573536 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) If anyone's got a spare few minutes this is mental: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39573536   Great read that, really interesting. The stones on the guy to go back in the end though...  Edited April 12, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 If anyone's got a spare few minutes this is mental: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39573536 Â Oh, interesting is it? you BOG TROTTING IRA SYMPATHISER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26345 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 It says a lot about the mess that was the British Army when it came to Northern Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16643 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Come out to see Thriller tonight and three lasses been chuck out for being pissed up and falling about. Â How can you get chucked out of a theatre ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 How can you get chucked out of a theatre ffs By being pissed up and falling about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Come out to see Thriller tonight and three lasses been chuck out for being pissed up and falling about. Â How can you get chucked out of a theatre ffs Where were you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26345 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39603942 Â About time that cunt lost his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017   Merseyside Police are investigating whether his comments constitute a "racial hate crime".  That's fucking ridiculous mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 You'd think the cunt would leave scousers alone with his history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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